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Posted By Manny
Our management team has decided to organise a team building event which in the main will consist of a BBQ, plenty of beer and a mechanical bull.
The bull owners are a reputable firm and I am in no doubt that this would be a great laugh if it wasn't for the prescence of the dreaded alcohol.
Our quandry: Do we hire the bull or just settle for the BBQ & Beer? Or can we place all the responsibility (i.e. ensuring participants are in a sober state) onto the bull owner (or his operator)?
p.s. I have already put the dampers on their first idea and I don't want them to think that I am against all fun activities and for them to think of me as a member of the fun police.
Manny
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Posted By Sally
Could you perhaps compromise with having the bull rider for say the first hour when not much alchol will have been consumed and warning staff of the dangers of drinking and riding.
I would also suggest discussing it with the operators. I would guess this is a scenario they've seen many times before.
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Posted By Raymond Rapp
Manny, at the risk of being shot to pieces...come now, grown adults can make up their own mind and even with some dutch courage, the risk is minimal and theirs to decide. Fun is exactly that, let's not let h&s get in the way of a jolly.
Ray
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
Remember to place a bucket at the side of the bull and label it as "Brain Holder" so that riders have somewhere to leave them before they get on. After a few beers they are usually badly smashed and messy when you need to leave them somewhere to before you get on these things.
Bob:-)
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Posted By Gff
The bull is the least of your worries
theres plenty case law regarding alcohol at work organised events
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Posted By Jimmy R
Honestly, I've always found bucking bronco type rides self regulating....the more alcohol you have the less balance you have......the less balance you have the quicker you fall off......the quicker you fall off the less chance of injury! Let you hair down and enjoy.
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Posted By Ken Taylor
I suspect that it's a passenger carrying amusement device and requires a mechanical engineer's certificate and adequate public liability insurance. The necessary competent operator would be expected to not allow riders who are incapable of using the device with the normal degree of safety due to evident health or disability reasons such as inebriation. So, if the company are just hiring the thing to use themselves without an operator who will be in control and one of the drunken idiots falls off and breaks his/her neck, guess who will be in the 'firing line'.
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Posted By Manny
What I would like to know is where we stand if someone was unfortunate to injure themselves after a couple of drinks? Who would be liable us or the operator?
I suppose if anything happens we could just say, in our defence, that we were just "getting a life"
Manny
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Posted By Raymond Rapp
Manny, if it gives you this much of a problem don't hire it, otherwise, provided you have ensured that basic safety provisions and guidance is provided it is up to the individual to decide the risk.
In a worst case scenario, anyone being injured would have little substance for a claim due the the 'volenti' principle. In reality there is more chance of one of your employees getting seriously injured driving their car to and from work!
Ray
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Posted By Tabs
Manny,
If the injury is due to mechanical or operating failures, the ride provider would be predominantly liable, you may pick up some contributory if you made no reasonable attempt to mitigate that.
If the injury is due to misuse/abuse/foolishness of a person ignoring the warning of the operator, the injured person would attract some blame and others may be contributory.
If you (the company) ply participants with drink and no reasonable control, override the operator's judgement, or some other way cause the problem, you (the company) can expect the costs.
A normal event, normal behaviour, normal controls, unlikely that people will be badly hurt at all - but freak accidents do happen, and that's the beauty of insurance.
Cotton wool not required - one or two sober managers, essential.
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Posted By Lilian McCartney
Hi Manny,
I've been at a similar event and the bull operators would only come for the first couple of hours due to the alcohol likely to be consumed.
All went well, there was plenty of padding fo rthose that fell off, not so much for those that fell in the car park though!
Lilian
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Posted By PH
We do a lot of work with some of our clients with regards corporate events, works parties etc. The best advice is take time to plan it - running the mechanical bull before too much alcohol has been consumed is a good example of this. With a little thought everyone has a good time, all go home in one piece and elf and safety don't get accused of being kill joys.
Regards, P.
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Posted By Manny
Thanks everyone, lots of good advice.
Now, anyone know where we can hire a bull?
Manny
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Posted By Melanie Fellows
Try contacting the poster of the Fun Day thread - they're planning to hire one & may have supplier details for you.
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Posted By Manny
I was joking about hiring a bull, we are in Germany but thanks anyway.
Manny
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