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Posted By Kite
Could any one help on the subject of signs
we have the blue mandatory signs but some people take no notice of them could you tell me what the law says on this subject
Geoff
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Posted By Steve Cartwright
When you say nobody takes any notice of them. Do your employees know what the signs mean?
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Posted By Kite
Yes they do know what the signs mean
Geoff
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Posted By The toecap
More info required. What is the sign?
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Posted By garyh
The Health and Safety at Work Act requires employees to co-operate with their employer on health and safety issues. Enough said!
I do not believe that any regulation states that you have to comply with signage.
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Posted By Kite
Respirators must be used
Geoff
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Posted By Andrew Meiklejohn
If you are talking about non-compliance with mandatory PPE then I would advise some safety observation. Keep a record of non-compliances and start corrective action procedures if necessary.
Two weeks ago while doing an audit, saw a guy without hearing protection - had a word, last week saw same guy wearing mp3 headphones rather than required plugs/defenders had a word, this week he was wearing headphones under the defenders.
Next week he has a meeting with HR.
Slowly but surely.....
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Posted By CFT
Kite
White symbols or text on the blue background & circular, are 'mandatory' and you are correct they are a 'must' not a guide. H&S Signs Signals Regs offer different classifications for different processes/situations etc and the mandatory sign may for example state 'Wear ear protection' this does not fatten the argument that engineering controls to reduce or eliminate are preferable, it may be in this particular instance you simply can't remove the residual hazard to hearing so from the MHSWR you find the risk can't be eliminated you use a sign to say 'you will wear hearing protection in this area'.
In an area where the risk is not likely to be mitigated by a sign then the sign will not be required; remember it is not mandatory to have a sign for every given situation, but if you cannot remove the significant risk then the inclusion of said 'mandatory' sign is your way of protecting the person (or part of) through the inclusion of such sign.
The signs we have been discussing are not to be confused with 'Prohibition or Warning' signs.
Go back to the original monitoring process that was used to justify the placement of such signage, it is not sufficient to install such a sign without first considering other elements of the hierarchical process to reduce or remove such a hazard through other means.
I hope that helps.
CFT
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Posted By Adam Worth The Health and Safety (Safety Signs and Signals) Regulations 1996 http://www.hse.gov.uk/PUBNS/indg184.htmremember a sign is just a sign! It must be backed up by training and a good safety culture. Make sure all your signs are relevant, that you don't have sign overload and that signs are clearly visible and a suitable location. I walked straight past a slippery floor warning sign today and i'm the safty manager! DOH - It's position could have been better! Sometimes I feel we need a sign warning of other signs :) Good luck
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Posted By Kite
Many Thanks for your replies
The problem is trying to re educate people I did a assessment and we have a new extraction system put in this reduce the amount of fumes but you still need to wear a respirator as you are handling the chemicals. I am trying not to over sing every where
Geoff
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Posted By Ken Taylor
The sign is an instruction to use rpe - presumably based upon risk assessment. If someone refuses to obey the instruction after being trained and told, the disciplinary route is required. Allowing the person to continue without the necessary protection, in addition to encouraging further unsafe practices, can lead to the employer finishing up in court when things go wrong.
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