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#1 Posted : 10 August 2007 14:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By Phillipe
Hi

Fire in a premise caused by electrical fault

Asbestos material in ceiling area - has become airborne as a result but dampened down after fire service tackled blaze and pretty much contained in building

RIDDOR Reportable as dangerous occurrence?

Cheers

Phil

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#2 Posted : 10 August 2007 14:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Pat Hannaway
Hi Phillipe,
It would be RIDDOR reportable if the electrical fault / short circuit resulted in a fire or explosion which caused a stoppage of the plant for more than 24 hours (irrespective of the presence of asbestos).

Pat
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#3 Posted : 10 August 2007 14:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Phillipe
I read that in the RIDDOR guidance, however if you look at the preceeding text it refers to a workplace activity in the context of an accident...that is the bit I am a little unclear on. The fire happened in the early hours and no work was being undertaken as the building was empty

Thanks for your comments
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#4 Posted : 10 August 2007 15:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By CFT
As to no one being present, that is a bonus, the dangerous occurrence happened never-the-less.

Accidental release of any substance which may damage health, & electrical short circuit or overload causing fire; this is fairly conclusive for reporting purposes. There is another which is, 'if normal works are suspended for more than 24 hours;' you don't however indicate that may be the case. In any event it is fully reportable.

CFT
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#5 Posted : 10 August 2007 15:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By garyh
Call you local inspector and get their view. They will probably say report but you can push them on the interpretation of RIDDOR in this case.
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#6 Posted : 10 August 2007 15:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By The toecap
I recall 'being exposed to a dangerous substance such as asbestos' in reg 149. I'll never forget that as it happened accidentally once.
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#7 Posted : 10 August 2007 15:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By CFT
Phillipe

Interpretation not necessary ,as it is quasi prescriptive and not really open to any real level of interpretation.

Give Caerphilly a ring by all means, if I'm wrong I will formerly apologise on forum.

CFT
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#8 Posted : 10 August 2007 15:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By Phillipe
Thanks folks, appreciated as always

Phil
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#9 Posted : 10 August 2007 21:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bennie
Hi CFT - we have already had a bit of a problem with English translation on other threads - how does "quasi prescriptive" fit into English, Scottiis or Welsh translation? And excuse my ignorance, what does it mean?

Best Regards
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#10 Posted : 11 August 2007 07:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By CFT
Bennie

'Quasi' refers to things and actions which are not exactly or fully what they might appear, but have to be treated 'as if' they were. It is always used with another word and describes in the instance I have contextualised it to, as meaning' almost legal.

CFT
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#11 Posted : 11 August 2007 07:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By CFT
I am of course making reference to the ACoP.

CFT
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