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#1 Posted : 07 September 2007 09:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By wify
Main contractor has requested all sub contractors provide labour to clean the public road out side the main construction site. There reason is (due to insufficient car park space within site boundaries) operatives are parking on the main road, it has been reported that they are throwing rubbish (fast food containers, ash trays etc) on the street. Can ayone provide me with ammo so I can politely refuse there request, (I believe our operatives park in the car park as they start 30 mins before other subcontractors)

Cheers
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#2 Posted : 07 September 2007 09:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Matthew
You could try asking for a site instruction or VO and then let the QS sort it out financially.
David
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#3 Posted : 07 September 2007 09:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martyn Hendrie
More basic question. Are your operatives the ones dropping the litter?

If the site is part of the "Considerate Contractors" scheme littering the adjacent streets would be a significant concern for the Principal Contractor

If your operatives are causing the problem, in my opinion, your company should play its part in resolving the problem.

30yrs in construction tells me that a subcontractor that takes on the Principal (Main) Contractor on an issue like this may win a battle but will lose out overall.
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#4 Posted : 07 September 2007 09:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By wify
More basic question. Are your operatives the ones dropping the litter? - Unlikely as we start 30 mins before other sub contractors and therefor parking space is available in car park.

If the site is part of the "Considerate Contractors" scheme littering the adjacent streets would be a significant concern for the Principal Contractor - Yes it is but only when it suites main contractor.

If your operatives are causing the problem, in my opinion, your company should play its part in resolving the problem. - as above, but I believe the main contractor should do something rather than sub contractors, Also as it is outside site I presume we have to follow the highways act ?

30yrs in construction tells me that a subcontractor that takes on the Principal (Main) Contractor on an issue like this may win a battle but will lose out overall.
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#5 Posted : 07 September 2007 09:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By GARRY WIZZ
place of work has been extended from the construction site to include the public highway.

Information, training R.A.S. create a safe place of work.

I think someonr from the P.C. has not considered all the ramifications of said action.

if a worker was injured whilst street cleaning then it would make them think.

Garry
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#6 Posted : 07 September 2007 09:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By CFT
I don't suppose you have security cameras about that could prove your people are not responsible?

Obvious and perhaps initially time consuming but at least if you could identify the cause you could move on with the job at hand.

CFT
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#7 Posted : 07 September 2007 11:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By wify
Gary.

Cheers, that is exactly my view.

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#8 Posted : 07 September 2007 13:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
Just think this through from the PC view for a moment. Acts of street littering are occurring as a result of the workforce from his site. Penalty notices and prosecutions will potentially follow if it continues. So what is the PC to do. The fairest option is to require all subcontractors to supply some labour to resolve the problem. It is going to be very difficult to be adamant that your operatives never drop litter.

The issue of car parking is a red herring in this situation - the PC can withdraw this at any time - you are simply lucky to get first picking - a situation which other subcontractors may resent if you take a hardline over litter picking.

Bob
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