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Posted By HR71 How do you differentiate a display screen user? i have heard that if a person uses a VDU for more than 2 hours continuously, he is a display screen user. is this correct? if not what would be the correct classification and from where it can be referred?
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Posted By CRN Baker Hi, there is some guidance in HSE Book - L26 "Work with Display Screen Equipment" that is a good starting point (page 4 in my copy!!)
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Posted By Ron Hunter HSE publication L26 states that it will generally be appropriate to classify any person concerned as a user or operator if they:
(a) normally use DSE for continuous or near-continuous spells of an hour or more at a time; and (b) use DSE in this way more or less daily; and (c) have to transfer information quickly to or from the DSE;and also need to apply high levels of attention and concentration; or are highly dependent on DSE or have little choice about using it; or need special training or skills to use the DSE.
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Posted By Tarquin Farquor We go further than the regulatory definition and include anyone who has been given a computer log in for the company and therefore has access to use the DSE equipment.
This helps cover where the person may have an increase in work transferring to user category.
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TF
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Posted By Julian Wilkinson the thing is, when the reg's were writen it was not uncommon for people to have to share a pc, the type of work was different then too. There was more data input wich was more specialists (operator) work rather than most staff having to use everyday items such as email and office packages like they do today.
In my view, if that person has been allocated a pc with their own 'user' id then they should be treated as a user.
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Posted By Kenneth Patrick HSE publication L26 states that it will generally be appropriate to classify any person concerned as a user or operator if they: (a) normally use DSE for continuous or near-continuous spells of an hour or more at a time; and (b) use DSE in this way more or less daily; and (c) have to transfer information quickly to or from the DSE;and also need to apply high levels of attention and concentration; or are highly dependent on DSE or have little choice about using it; or need special training or skills to use the DSE
Colleagues I think you are ignoring the very important and in the above guidance
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Posted By Tarquin Farquor Kenneth,
Could you clarify your posting please.
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Posted By Heather Collins He's saying that all three of a) b) and c) should apply so it isn't just judged on the time spent.
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Posted By Kenneth Patrick Thanks Heather and just to be totally clear it means that if condition c) does not exist then you do need to even think about the time factors in a) and b)
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Posted By Heather Collins True. However I would suggest that "have little choice about using it" applies to quite a lot of us these days!
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Posted By Tarquin Farquor Heather / Kenneth,
Thanks for the clarification, your interpretation of the guidance is, in my opinion, correct.
However some employers see compliance with statutory requirements as a minimum and choose to go beyond these (unfortunately not all but we work on them).
That is why we class anyone with an access login to DSE as a user, regardless of time used, choice etc.
This may also be a more efficient approach as you do not have to go through the identification processes or deal with transfers of persons into the user category due to an increase in hours worked etc.
This, I feel, better reflects the intentions of the EU directive.
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Tf
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Posted By Ryan Pavey Hi Everyone, I would like to second what Tf said in the last post. A lot of customers using our DSE training & risk assessment software base thier users on IT logins or quite often people with email addresses. On that subject, our software sends automated emails chasing users for completion of the training and risk assessment process and the wording used is generally geared to much more than compliance. The message these days is centred around ensuring staff are comfortable in their working environment and rightly so. There is much more at stake than just compliance when you factor in lost work hours through discomfort and time off work plus the threat of litigation. Kind regards, Ryan www.essentialskillz.com
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Posted By Barrie (Badger) Etter HR71 Send me your email address and I'll send by return a copy of our DSE questionnaire that sorts the users from non users.
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Posted By Bob Thompson CMIOSH lets not forget that compliance with the written word of the regulations is only mimimum compliance. It is up to each proffesionanal to interpret the requirements with relation to your own operations. Time limits are only implied guides as with lap tops, scedule 2 implies a maximum time for un docked use of 20 minutes thus not meeting the suggested criteria for assessment.
I take the stance that everyone who uses a computer requires an assessment. Part of that assessment will establish if that person is actually a user as defined but more importantly will ensure that the way the equipment is being used is properly addressed given that people may have pre existing medical problems which may be exhasperated before the time limits are achieved.
Bob
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Posted By Ryan Pavey Hi Everyone,
A lot of companies using our software solution identify staff needing DSE training and risk assessment by IT logins. Another popular method is any staff with email addresses, this can also bring in homeworkers who obviously require training and assessment but often slip through the net.
The key question to ask IT is for them to only include 'live' accounts. Very often email accounts are kept open for a period after someone has left the business.
Hope this helps
Ryan
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