Posted By Garry Adams
A Question for the Scaffolding Fraternity.

I have contacted variouse members of N.A.S.C. for clarification regarding Scaffold Design Drawings.

However, would like to invite comments from the Forum.

Q.1. Is it a Statutory requirement to generate working dramings for every Scaffolding Structure.

Q.2.If it is a statutory requirement...
Is(off the shelf) structures included or is it only required for bespoke Structures...

Regards, Garry...

Posted By Chris Ball
i think it is a requirement now for any load bearing structures such as loading bays and any difficult structures to have drawings , we have had a 90% increase in the request for designs this year mainley from the big contractors such as Alfred Mc alpine , coffey etc.

Would be interested to find out the legal outlook on this

Posted By GT
Gerry,

I believe that there is a requirement under BS 5973 :1993 for anything over 38 meters in height requires an engineered drawing.

Regards

GT

Posted By Robert K Lewis
The BS 5973 has been superseded by BS EN 1211-1. The text is only fully applicable to system scaffolds and not tubes and fitting therefore the NASC have produced the TG20 guidance to assist the users of such scaffolds to comply with the WAH requirements and permit usage of some of the BS5973 material and information.

You will find that there are standard design layouts in the TG20 but the erector must be able to demonstrate that the underlying design assumptions are met - Any exceeda nce requires a formal design. There is a standard loading bay layout, that includes a ladder beam, for use only where there is non-mechanical loading techniques. The ladder beam is often WRONGLY ommitted and double couplings substituted - This requires a design to prove the structural strength. If you load with telehandlers etc then they must be designed.

If ties exceed the 4m grid or lift height is greater than 2m, except at ground level where 2.7m is permitted, designs are required.

You really need to have a copy of both documents available to ensure that you get the service and design requirements correct. If you do not have them I would seek some independent advice. I do have a brief note available that I use as an aide memoire but unless you are experienced in construction I would advise the independent advice.

Bob

Posted By Garry Adams
F.A.O. Chris Ball,

Thanks for the info,90% increase on your work load eh, MMmmm that indicates that the statutory requirement for Scaffolding Design Drawings, is kicking in...I am working towards establishing an Oil and Gas Skills Academy in Aberdeen, this has the blessing of both Holyrood and Westminster.
My remit is to establish a Faculty of Scaffolding, Rigging and Rope Access Techniques. Greenhand and Novice Candidates whom demonstrate a flare for C.A.D. Design will be offered further training in Scaffolding Design Engineering, are there any training aids that you could recommend...software packages, ect, I would be appreciate your opinion.

Kind regards, Garry...>garryadams@hotmail.co.uk

Posted By Garry Adams
F.O.A. Robert K Thomas

Thank-you for an extensive reply to my question, it will be of great value to me.

Part of my remit is Risk Management, this involves Loss Prevention Strategies which analyses the Integrity and Reliability of Bespoke Special Structures in Tube and Fittings.

Kind regards, Garry...

Posted By Robert K Lewis
Chris Ball

Your post is so off the wall even I as a professional off the waller cannot make sense of it in the light of this thread.

Bob

Posted By Garry Adams
Yo Chris,

Your coming through clear as a bell, thanks 4 getting back to me, ye man base plates I gotcha, some of them are more like sole boards and twise as thick he he...na I shouldint slag off my potentional brother Scaffs eh. especialy when Im the running for the most Mental Scaff that ever surfed the steel.

I viewed CADS web site last Monday, I requested a demo, I received it on Friday, assessed it over the wkend.Got a call from Gareth Kent of CADS On Monday asking me what I thought of it. I told him as a basic teaching tool it was good. however I have an IT whiz kid working on vertual reality walk through programms,this provision would enable the design engineer to over lay Scaffolding Structures requested by the client, thus predicting Bills of Quantities and the formulation of shedules of work ect. ect.

I was looking at Strike in the NASC Yearbook Iv been going to make an informal enquire, thanks for a ref point I shall contact Annie in due course.

Ciao for now hope to talk soon,are you a Scaff?
P.S.if you got some free time, cheque out the thread ( Up-Date: Government Committs to Oil and Gas Academy)

Fraternal regards, Garry...

Posted By Garry Adams
Salutations Brother Scaff,

Iv been surfin the steel pre and post H.A.S.W.A. 36 years before the mast and still doin the biz.
Iv served the Scaffolding Industry since 1972.
Mainly concerned with; Construction; Hook-up; Post Construction and De-Commissioning contracts within the Offshore Oil and Gas Industry; Allied Onshore Terminals and Power Generation Industries.

The roles that I have undertaken during my career have been many and varied ranging from Scaffold Erector; Industrial rigger; Mentor/coach; Supervisor; Projects Manager; Scaffolding Superintendent; Non-Bias Statutory Scaffolding Inspector and Commissioning Agent.

At present I run a Scaffolding Consultancy with a 2 close Accosiates.

Were are working toword establishing a teaching Faculty to deliver Bolt-on Training for the Fossel Fuel and Nuclear Power Generating Industries.

Plus... Looking at a Research and Developement project...in breif its a spanner that incorporates a torque mechcanisim...Risk Management, loss prevention, Mitigation controll...Assures Torque value of component parts...reduce the risk = reduce the Insurance premiums...could save the Industry £££££££££.

What do you think???

Fraternal ragards, Garry...