Posted By Seamus O Sullivan Hi everyone, I am just wondering what your views are on the effectivness of training. I was recently on a course ( in my view a very important course) and prior to the test, we were all given the answers, also one person had no english, ( test was in english)Person with no english passed! AMAZING. When It comes to training,Looks like money is used to buy qualifications. Ok the person who gave the course was not a member of IOSH yet!! ( but may be in time) Is it normal in the UK for the trainers to give the answers like this. My feeling is that is not the way it should be done, I myself am a trainer, and would never dream of doing such a thing. Perhaps some trainers are not aware of their own legal obligations. I do feel happy though when people pass after being on my course, and am a little disappointed when some fail ( rare occasion but it does happen) I am intrested in other peoples views. Seamus

Posted By Seamus O Sullivan hi karen Thank you for the response, does anyone else have a view. Seamus

Posted By Merv Newman Seamus, Karen I think we agree on what this is about. Someone's remuneration or continuing employ depends on the pass rate. The people we tend to work for don't go for questionnaires. But they do require participant evaluations of the utiity of the training. Low score and you get paid but not asked back. But. We are currently negotiating for a contract to train/qualify hundreds of people. Our brief is basically ; "everyone must pass" In all good conscience you musn't cheat. You have to teach. Merv

Posted By Merv Newman PH I think we sort of crossed in the post. I was doing mine (12.09) while you were doing yours (12.03) No, you can't give out the questionnaire before-hand but there will always be "bullet points" (americanism. sorry) which you really need to blast into their brains. I've sometimes thought that a pneumatic nail gun or even the traditional coal hammer would make a great teaching aid. Some days are better than others Merv