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#1 Posted : 21 September 2007 09:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Edward Deighan Does anyone know were I can source the above cage from. I need to be able to put one person and a welder with gas bottle in. Any cages I have looked at are all to small. Could we even make one ourselves. Thanks Eddie
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#2 Posted : 21 September 2007 10:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By Eddie Campbell Eddie Check out http://www.hse.gov.uk/workplacetransport/pm28.pdf My advice would be that it is much easier and less hassle (and of course safer)to use a MEWP. Eddie
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#3 Posted : 21 September 2007 10:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By LMR Eddie Agreed with earlier - much easier to hire a MEWP when needed. If you do go down the route of man cage for a forklift truck you will also have to change the inspeciton schedule for any flt to which it may be attached to a six monthly interval rather than the annual LOLER inspections as it becomes a people lifting item and if you have more than one FLT and it could be attached to any then you have to do that for all of them. Cost wise it proved cheaper (and safer) for us to hire in. Also MEWPS are designed for the purpose and have the appropriate stabiliser mechanisms.
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#4 Posted : 21 September 2007 21:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bruce Wayne Just some thoughts - A gas bottle in the cage?? What kind of gas is it and have you carried out a sufficient risk assessment? Bruce
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#5 Posted : 24 September 2007 09:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Rich T I would tend to agree with the MEWP route. I think that the general view is that FLT cages should really be of the "fully integrated" type to be acceptable for "planned" use. IMHO - Non-integrated cages are only really acceptable for non-planned, non-routine maintenance or emergency access, where the work is of short duration and/or it would be impractical to hire in equipment specially for the task. For most PM tasks, I can't see why a MEWP would not always be more suitable. Remember - you are planning to work at height, so the WAH regulations also need to be considered: (selection of work equipment for working at height, which is the most suitable work equipment with respect to the avoidance of risks). Why is a cage preferable to a MEWP, if you don't mind my asking?
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#6 Posted : 24 September 2007 09:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Seamus O Sullivan Cages have been known to fall off, seamus
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#7 Posted : 24 September 2007 14:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mitch Extend gas bottle hose so that it can remain at ground level!!
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#8 Posted : 24 September 2007 15:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By ddraigice If, after considering other equipment, and following the wah principles, you still decide to get one of these or make it yourself, take a look at pm28. It gives guidance on when to use them and the structural capabilities expected. http://www.hse.gov.uk/workplacetransport/pm28.pdf The cage should be built following the criteria set down in this document and CE marked or checked by a competent person to ensure it is compliant. However, it could be argued that this kind of maintenance is construction as defined in the CDM ACOP and PM28 specifically says that construction should not use a non-integrated platform irrespective of the whether it's occasional use. The person in the basket has no control and people do tend to either not bother with the scotch lock to prevent tipping or forget to tie the thing securely in the first place!
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#9 Posted : 24 September 2007 17:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By Edward Deighan Thanks everybody who answered my query. Having listened to you I think I will go down the route MEP. tHANKS
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#10 Posted : 26 September 2007 11:18:00(UTC)
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Posted By Rich T Quote: "http://www.hse.gov.uk/workplacetransport/pm28.pdf The cage should be built following the criteria set down in this document and CE marked or checked by a competent person to ensure it is compliant." Endquote. Just as a clarification, it is not permitted to CE mark any non-integrated working platform.
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