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Posted By Brando
All,
Our HGV drivers are asking for an automatic device to hold open the filling nozzles when they fill up with diesel ( so that they don't have to hold in the handle ).
Permissable or not?
I have never seen this type of thing so am unsure what the standard practice is.
I would have though it just increases the chance of a spill. Also, would there be any static related issues?
Brando
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Posted By garyh
It is possible to get "locking" handles however, human nature being what it is, people will start filling and walk away and leave it.
Eventually this will lead to a spill.
Can't see any static issues, the equipment should be properly earthed, I wouldn't worry too much about a "charged" person coming up and touching the hose.
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Posted By Konstanty Budkiewicz Hi Brando, As a former aircraft refueller I share your driver's pain (it is an ergonomic issue after all). First thoughts are that an aircraft-based latched refuelling gun may be suitable. This has a latched - not automatic ON lock. This means that the operator only has to pull the grip once to the latched position and then undoes the latch when refuelling is complete. See http://www.treloar.com.a...ng/190GA%20&%20190GJ.pdf for a typical design. Note the bonding (static friction) connector. Although I could not readily find one on their web site I would expect that Avery Hardol should have a suitable design. You could view the gun at your local airfield where they are used for open line overwing refuelling. Good hunting
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Posted By Stefan Daunt
It can be a little time consuming filling a 300 ltr Diesel tank holding onto the pump trigger, if you call at any of the large service stations with a HGV pump installed you will see what your drivers are talking about. Obviously if this is required for your yard ensure that you have a spillage response plan in place if a driver does leave the nozzle unattended.
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Posted By TK
You could run the idea past the Petroleum Officers of ypur local Trading Standards and Fire Brigade.
I used them In Germany where they have them in public fuel stations. I've never seen them in the UK.
Perhaps there's a regulation that says you're not allowed.
Thomas
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Posted By Dave Todd
The lock-out device is available on all fuel pumps in the UK.
Some managers, however, decide to inactivate them due to the perceived stupidity of the users. The previous respondants have pointed this out quite eloquently.
It is normally a knee jerk reaction to a previous incident involving much mess, expense, & claims for this, that, & the other.
However, a professional truck driver will remove the cap, insert the wider than usual nozzle into his tank, note the thickly graduated nodules on the underside of nozzle, position so that nodule forms irremovable grip, pull fuel release trigger, then walk away...........................for 10 minutes!
He would do this because he knows for a fact, that, having tweaked the magic little trigger on the underside of his thumb, fuel will flow regardless of where he may wonder.
The auto cut-out will deal with every situation.
Even death.
It is a dead mans' handle. It will not overfill under any circumstances.
I would fit this kind of nozzle to your fuel bunker in an instant. It will reinforce your level of trust & comittment to your already overworked team of professional drivers.
Have a go at your nearest BP. You'll see........
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