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Posted By srd
I want to implement an OHSAS 18001 health and safety management system. Anyone know of any good publications to steer me in the right direction? I found the following two books by searching on the internet:
Ohsas 18001: Designing and Implementing an Effective Health and Safety Management System by Joe Kausek (2007). This seems to be an American book, so I'm a little concerned that it will contain references to USA legislation.
Managing Safety the Systems Way: Implementing OHSAS 18001 Using BS 8800 by David Smith, Geoff Hunt, and Clive Green (2004). I don't currently use BS 8800, so would this be a problem?
I did consider using HSG65, but decided to go with OHSAS 18001 as I would like to integrate it with the 14001 environmental management system.
Are there any better publications out there?
Stephen.
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Posted By Pete Longworth
OHSAS 18001 is a management system so from that point of view any publication about it shouldn't reference any specific legislation, American or otherwise. The system does specify that you should have a procedure for identifying legal and other requirements but that's about it. Whether it's an American publication shouldn't really make any difference.
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Posted By John Jones
Hi Stephen,
You may what to bear in mind that OHSAS 18001 will becoming a standard BS OHSAS 18001:2007.
John
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Posted By garyh
I would get the 2007 standard, and do a gap analysis based on it (it's easier than it sounds).
You can then produce a report on this, it will be obvious what you need to do to implement ie fill the gaps.
My view is why read books about the standard when you can just read the standard?
BSi also produce a doc on implementing the standard ie "OHSAS 18002 The official standard in PDF format: 'Occupational health and safety management systems - Guidelines for the implementation of OHSAS 18001'"
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Posted By Ian Waldram
The free IOSH Guide 'Systems in Focus' can be downloaded from the Technical Information page here. Good principles to help you plan the project, but probably not enough detail for you?
The BSi publication you quote is very practical, with lots of examples for typical organisations in a range of sectors.
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Posted By Robert.
BS OHSAS 18001:2007
ISBN 978 0 580 59404 5
There are minor changes between 1999 & 2007 which are mentioned in the foreword.
I've just noticed that some of the text appears to be English US like "organization".
I thought is was a BS!
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Posted By srd
Thank you all, in particular for the information that the standard has been updated, the advice on 'gap analysis' and the pointer to the Technical Information on the IOSH web site (I never think of looking there).
Does anyone here use the ILO system?
Stephen.
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Posted By Merv Newman
ILO is aimed at governments. Getting them to implement laws on H&S. And putting the unions in control of H&S
OHSAS is aimed at employers. Getting them to implement rules/procedures/practices/procedures
While, in theory, I cannot contradict the ILO approach I would much prefer that employers, THE employer, took personal responsibility for the H&S of employees.
IE do not take (or pay) £200. just go to jail.
Now this is Merv being very radical : if an injured employee is medically declared to be 20% handicapped or incapable then I would like the MD to spend the equivalent career time in jail or pay the equivalent proportion of his/her salary.
Kill two or more people ? Then you die in Broad moor. (you just have to be mad to let that happen)
OK, back to the original question : where to start.
Start at the top. convince senior management that it is in their personal,career,financial interest that there are fewer lost time injuries. then show them how to do it. it ain't that difficult. Senior management then convince middle and lower management that they are serious about safety.
Coming to supervision/employee relationships, there are two possibilities :
1. "if I find you without safety glasses then I am going to give you a right kicking"
2. "If I see you wearing your safety glasses then I am going to give you a kiss"
while admitting the limitations of the second approach (depends on your boss and on your sexual preferences) I much prefer the "recognition/reward/reinforcement" approach.
Merv
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Posted By Darren (Daz) Fraser
BSI have a seminar on Tuesday 9th October in Manchester, which may also be of interest if you are able to attend. There is a cost attached.
David Smith, the joint author of the book 'Managing Safety the Systems Way' is the chair for the seminar, and was heavily involved in the rewrite of the revised BS OHSAS standard update.
May see some of you there.
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