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#1 Posted : 12 October 2007 15:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Michael Baker
Please let me know what you think about the following situation.

An agency advertises for temps to work for a well know manufacturer. Long term temp arrangement, but no mention of a temp to perm arrangement. Once through the interview stage the new temp then has to give up 2 days of their time (unpaid) for Health & Safety and induction training, and also pay the agency £60.00 per day for said training (this £120 is recovered from their wages when they start work)
At this stage the temp is not employed by the agency, so am I right in assuming that this arrangement is outside of the 'provision of statutory requirements without charge' that usually applies to employees?
Am I also right in thinking this arrangement stinks??
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#2 Posted : 12 October 2007 15:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter
Michael

Aren't the temps employees of the agency?

Paul
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#3 Posted : 12 October 2007 15:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By Michael Baker
Not until they have completed their 2 training days, then they get taken on officially
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#4 Posted : 12 October 2007 15:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By J Knight
Hi Michael,

If this training is required then in my opinion they are at work, irrespective of whether or not they are paid. Their time is not their own, they are at the disposal of their employer, and the training is a condition of employment. In this situation the matter of pay would not be relevant, I reckon,

John
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#5 Posted : 12 October 2007 15:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By Pete48
I agree with previous posters but with this proviso.
If it is possible to attain the required level of competence by means other than attending this training; then it is an understandable pre-requirement. Sort of no different to me needing to study engineering to be an engineer.
If it is specific to the agencys client company and must be completed only to be able to work for them then I think it is a bit much. How to gain respect for H&S and look after people eh?
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#6 Posted : 13 October 2007 12:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman
Slightly dodgy, but. If the requirement is to get on the agency's books for a certain category of work than the prospective temp must be able to show competence. (driving licence and so forth)("Can you drive a JCB ?" "Yuss mate")("wots a JCB ?")

Obviously it is a profit making gouge and could be provided free or at-cost but I'm very much on the fence here.

Mind you, £60 per day for, lets say, 10 trainees, doesn't leave much for the trainer.

"you gotta make a profit or two" (Oliver, Lionel Bart, 1972)

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