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#1 Posted : 13 October 2007 08:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martin Taylor What is peoples experience of driving styles for ride on powered pallet trucks. In our workplace it is considered that they be driven in either direction - forks leading OR forks trailing. We have started using some new training material that suggests that it should always be forks trailing which I think has some benefits but what happens in the big wide world. What do your drivers do - for trainers what instructions do you give? thanks Martin
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#2 Posted : 13 October 2007 10:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave West I am a trained operator in one of these and its forks trailing evertime. If you have never driven one of these i can tell you they are not easy to drive forks forward. The ones i drove were lansing T20's and had safety features so that if your body presses against the steering it stops which confirms to mr forks trailing.
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#3 Posted : 15 October 2007 19:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martin Taylor thanks Dave - I am getting very confused with this. My in house trainer believes that drivers can operate in either direction but Dave's view and the published training material I have seems to differ I would much prefer for the practice to be driving forks trailing if this is practical but I am not experienced on the machines and custom and practice is inbred in our workforce that I can not get an appropriate opinion from there. Is there anybody else that can help on an opinion on this matter - or a source of independent advice thanks again Martin
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#4 Posted : 16 October 2007 09:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Sally Generally they should be driven forks trailing but can be driven forks first for manoeuvering etc or short distance to avoid turning. I'm sure the HSE does some guidance notes on them - try the website.
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#5 Posted : 16 October 2007 12:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Adrian Clifton Martin It really depends on the type of truck being driven. The operating controls of some trucks require the driver to face the forks when being driven with the steering wheels located underneath the driver. To drive this type of truck with forks trailing would require the driver to adopt a twisted posture to look in the direction of travel. This will have an adverse effect on the spine, particularly in the neck area, which could be made worse if the floor surface is uneven, causing vibration. If the controls face away from the forks, then they should trail when being driven except for the shortest distance practicable to place or collect a load. This will require the driver to twist for the shortest period of time possible. If the controls require the driver to sight at right-angles to the forks, then drive with the forks trailing as the truck is easier to manoeuvre round corners (like driving your car), again only travelling with forks forward to place or collect the load. Does this help? Adrian
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#6 Posted : 16 October 2007 15:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By GARRY WIZZ An opinion, Had 10 of them at my old job and I used to do the training. If I am stood on the thing working all day most days I am going to face forward as long as I can see clearly, a day looking over the shoulder, standing side ways on the platform is tiring. garry
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#7 Posted : 16 October 2007 15:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve Butler Martin Many years ago i used to teach the RTITB course for FLTs CBs and the like. It is most definitely forks trailing on the pallet trucks. They are easier to control, stop and direct. They are also less deadly if you do happen to hit an object as opposed to wiping someone or something out with the fork ends and not to mention the energy that has to be released upon impact, i.e. The DRIVER straight over the body of the truck (battery box) and forks. In the real world at slow speeds when manouevering to locate a pallet then forks forward is no problem. Hope this helps. Steve
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#8 Posted : 17 October 2007 09:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By GARRY WIZZ It makes no difference at all when the ppt impacts with an object or person as to the outcome. If you are struck by the forks or by the foot plate you will sustain the same type of injuries. As the driver an impact in either direction is going to have a bad effect. But you should not be travelling that fast and if you are then the supervision / monitoring of staff is failing. There are a number of different designes for the drivers standing point and the amount of protection that is afforded. There is no law/acop that covers forks front or back that I am aware of. I would suggest, do a risk assessment from this decide which is the best position for the forks to be facing given the product, environment, quality of the drivers, type of ppt, historical impacts & outcomes eyc Hope that helps, Garry
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#9 Posted : 06 March 2008 10:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By John C Remember, driving into a trailer located on a loading bay and therefore over a dock leveller will require the pallet vehicle to be driven with the forks forward.
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#10 Posted : 06 March 2008 12:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alan Nicholls Try driving your truck up a slope with the forks behind you, the load will be unstable and may fall off backwards, forks forward and load can't fall off because the body of the truck is in the way! So you can drive it in either direction to suite the situation. Regards Alan N
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#11 Posted : 06 March 2008 13:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mitch Fork trucks-wheely bins, forwards or reverse?
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#12 Posted : 06 March 2008 16:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alan Nicholls Sometimes its so difficult to decide, common sense goes by the board. Its all down to control, certain circumstances dictate forwards, others dictate reverse. Horses for courses. Not black and white, just shades of grey. I sit firmly astride the fence! Regards Alan N
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#13 Posted : 06 March 2008 21:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jason911 We have a similar problem in that we usually operate stand up FLT's which of course should always be driven with forks trailing. However we do operate a smaller number of sit down trucks in which the driver is facing forwards rather than side on. When i asked the manufacturer of the FLT's whether they should also be driven forks facing their response was that it was a subject of much debate. Well I don't mind telling you that I'm stuck! Currently the trucks are driven in reverse because if they are driven with a loaded pallet you cannot see around them properly. My issue is that this means that the operator constantly has to crane their neck around (which can't be good) and also this still does not provide full visibility. i don't have much experience of sit down trucks so would appreciate any others experience of using them.
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#14 Posted : 12 March 2008 10:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By Innes Gray To help you tell what is forward and what is reverse As a driver of these units i would like to let you know my thoughts There are quite a few trucks that you sit side on to direction of travel. There is easy way to tell what is the front of truck and the rear, think of driving a car when you turn the steering wheel to the right you turn to the right turning to left turn wheels to left. When you carry out this check you will find out if the forks will be facing the front but i have come across trucks where this happens and the forks will be at rear. note :This is only used to help you tell where the front of the truck not what your carrying or how to carry things Note the rear forks were on small side sit and if you lifted a pallet of boxes there was a tendency to obscure your view causing you to either lean out the side of the truck to see past the pallet or stand to see over. Not recommended so when you drove the truck as you would using the above to find out where the front of the truck was you spent almost all of your time dragging the load behind you with a clear view to front .
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#15 Posted : 02 June 2008 11:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve Clark Hello all, there have been some very interesting comments in this debate, i would like to add some of my own if i may. As mentioned, there are several types and designs of PPT: fold-down footplate; fixed-enclosed footplate and pedestrian being the typical designs. One contributor mentioned that when driving onto a vehicle, the operator should drive forks forward - please note that fold-down footplate PPTs should never be riden off from a vehicle as this risks severe injuries to legs and ankles from impact with a rising dock leveller plate as the vehicle air suspension compresses. I have experience of at least three accident investigations with this cause. one contributor stated that MSD issues were a problem when looking 'over the shoulder' when driving in reverse, whilst another stated that some trucks have a side seated position. These good and accurate comments all indicate that a proper risk assessment of the particular truck in question, refering to the manufacturers instructions/handbook will help identify the particular operating procedures for each. I would say that there is no one rule fits all. BT rolatruc/HSE used to have an excellent video on PPTs which demonstrate their view on this topic - i suggest that it is worth while investing in. Regards Steve Clark Deputy Chair - IOSH Retail & Distribution Group.
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#16 Posted : 27 November 2008 01:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Pete Holman Pallet trucks should be driven with forks trailing under normal working conditions. Imagine going round a blind corner forks first - your forks could hit something before you even see it!! The exceptions to this rule are travelling on slopes. With a load you should drive with the load pointing up the hill. Without, you should travel with the forks pointing downhill. Also when placing pallts on a trailer where you have no choice but to drive onto it forks forward.
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