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#1 Posted : 16 October 2007 08:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mark Andrew We are going to introduce the mandatory wearing of safety glasses at our site. We are getting complaints of magnification from the lenses although (this may just be an excuse for resistance to wearing the glasses). Has anyone else come across the problem? We are carrying out trials at the moment to find a suitable pair to wear and any advice would be much appreciated.
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#2 Posted : 16 October 2007 09:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By Edward Shyer Hi Mark, I have come across this on a few occasions although this was only slight magnification it can hinder some people. I was lucky due to old age and poverty it was not a problem for me. The way to get co-operation for the proposed changes is to discuss the reasons for this mandatory change. This will help convince even the diehards of the reasons for this change. The worse thing that you could do is to inform the workforce that they have to wear the glasses as of from... without any explanation. Just to add if you are going to make these changes is it because of changes within the workplace that are to introduced or is it that you have now identified a current reason for this change. Regards Ted
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#3 Posted : 16 October 2007 09:18:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mark Andrew The reason we are introducing the safety glasses is after a number of minor incidents where somebody has got something in their eye and required first aid. The notice given has been 6 months so that our people will be prepared and hopefully accept the reasons for introducing the glasses. This is happening not just at our plant but at all other plants within the company.
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#4 Posted : 16 October 2007 09:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tim S Mark, Are you providing current spectacle wearers with prescription eye-wear or just over glasses? I ask from an "interested party" viewpoint, in that we have certain tasks where safety glasses must be worn. Regards Tim
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#5 Posted : 16 October 2007 09:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mark Andrew The people that wear prescription glasses will be provided with prescription safety glasses.
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#6 Posted : 16 October 2007 10:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken John Mark My experience of this is similar to yours. What I would say is that a blanket approach will seem appropriate. We have done the same but I still get first aid forms where employees have got dust or similar in their eye. Sure there may be times when people will have them on their head or whatever but there are times it happens to those who are always wearing them. Depending on the type of protection provided e.g for impact, for flashes, for use of substances making sure you get the right one is imperative. More importantly I believe is to get the right equipment for particular tasks, that is where the assessment of those tasks will identify need for PPE and which type. I found in one of our previous factories the blanket introduction for all employees within the factory of grade 1F impact light eye protection was great for projectiles but not everyone was exposed to that sort of hazard. which means people were wearing them for the sake of it and is not fully appropriate. So ensuring equipment for task specific is crucial. Will employees still get dust or whatever in there eye?
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#7 Posted : 16 October 2007 10:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mark Andrew Ken Therein lies the dilemma, we had one incident where one of our people was wearing eye protection only to take them off and rub his eye with a dirty finger!It is not a particularly dusty environment but there is the potential for particulates to be present and therefore get into peoples eyes.
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#8 Posted : 16 October 2007 13:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kenneth Patrick Do you think that glasses are much protection against getting dust in your eye? If that is your only problem would it not be better to reduce dust levels rather than everyone wear glasses? Also if you are convinced glasses help do they need to be safety glasses with toughened lenses?
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#9 Posted : 16 October 2007 13:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Darby I have a great deal of experience in this as I took over safety at a manufacturing plant with 750 employees and a terrible safety record, we were on the HSE poor performers list and the safety culture was - if you spoke up about safety you were sacked. We introduced full mandatory site safety glasses after a year long trial where I insisted that they must be worn for specific tasks or in specific areas. Everbody was warned at the beginnig that if that approach didn't work it would be mandatory everywhere. They didn't comply, so we went mandatory. Everybody wore them on day one, and by day 3 nobody was wearing them. It took us 2 years of very hard work for it to eventually become self enforcing by the employees. I had all of the excuses in the world, that they were magnifying, sending people blind, making them sick etc etc. Some suggstions that may help are, go with a quality manufacturer. We used North Safety who made a good range and gave us great back up. They even flew an optometrist who designs their glasses in Germany over to meet with the real die-hards who said it was sending them blind! Their objections changed a bit when they were sat with the manufacturer and an optometrist. Also a good response to the whingers is "if Boeing can assemble a super high tech aircraft wearing safety glasses, I am sure we can do our daily jobs too" Forge a link with a good, local, independant optician who you can refer people to at no cost to the employee. It is great power to your elbow to have an independent, qualified view. If someone says that the glasses are giving them a headache, tell them to stck with it. Their eyes just need to get used to it. The worst thing that they can do is keep taking them off and putting them back on. Their eyes will adjust. Also wearing safety glasses may just show up a weakness in the eye that existed before they wore safety glasses, so they may need prescription glasses. If an employee says that they have been to their optician and he has confirmed that they are affecting the employees eyesight, my response was always to ask the optician to put it in writing, addressed to the safety glasses manufacturer, that their glasses affect the wearers eyesight.. it always went away! Have zero tollerance on it, and make sure your managers and supervisors wear them all the time. If they don't comply, the workforce never will. We also had problem that outside normal working hours it often became more lax, but we stopped that by disciplining a manager who was in charge at a weekend, it never happened again. Also, you will not eliminate eye injuries. Safety glasses will still let dust and fluid around the outside. Safety Glasses are to stop serious or penetrating injury to the eye. I am really pleased to say that in the 5 years since we implemented mandatory glasses we definitely prevented 3 employees loosing an eye, (One of which was a guy looking up at a colleague working above him, when he dropped a 3 foot long, 1/4 inch steel rod, and it embedded itself in his safety glasses above his retina!!) and scores more from having to go to hospital. Stick with it and be relentless, it will be worth it. Also it helps re-enforce the general safety culture.
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#10 Posted : 16 October 2007 15:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By keith gib we introduced mandatory eye protection on our sites at all times and not just when carrying out work tasks. we had similar problems with some workers complaining of magnification & tired eyes after a days work. we put several glasses on trial & found the 'Bolle' safety glasses extremely good. we offered shaded, clear & also yellow glasses to the workforce & each individual selected the most comfortable for him. obviously the majority went for shaded in summer time but with changing of the seasons, yellow is now more common place. it goes without saying that glasses are replaced very regularly as even minor scratches can affect the magnification/ vision etc. also as one other respondant noted a 1F lens rated for low impact & continuous wear sufficed. we did have problems with 100% compliance initially but that has changed after one operative handed back a pair of glasses that had been hit by a flying staple & taken a chunk out of the lens. this was passed around the entire workforce with a talk by the operative on 'how these glasses saved my sight' 100% compliant now! KG
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#11 Posted : 16 October 2007 15:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By dez blackburn Please also check that the glasses you provide are for 100% use as some glasses do give a refraction and cause a problem, check out PULSAFE MILLENNIA RANGE in Greenhams Cat
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#12 Posted : 17 October 2007 10:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By John J Mark, Can I also suggest you have a look at Light Eye Protection with small reading lenses built in. I've trialled them on plant recently and they have gone down a storm. They were first looked at due to operators removing their LEP to put their 'readers' on and then changing back. Most declined the offer of prescription lenses due to the restricted vision when going down stairs and the image they portray (LEP with the lens built in only affect a small area and are barely noticeable). The lens come in standard corrections of 1.5, 2 and 2.5, John
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#13 Posted : 17 October 2007 12:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By garyh I have been here, introduced safety specs across multi sites. I have heard all the whines and excuses imaginable for not complying. If people say it causes double vision, headaches (you name it) send them to the company doctor or get them to produce something in writing from their doc / optician. I would advise that if you have established a need for it, specify which safety specs are required; offer prescription specs or overglasses for specs wearers. If people say that wearing specs is uncomfortable, ask them how comfortable an eye injury would be?
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