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Posted By Brian Murray
I have persuaded my Directors that we are not controlling noise at source as they allow radios to be played at high volume on the shop floor. They have agreed a volume control plan however I also believe that we need an entertainment licence to allow personal radios to be played. Can anyone point me in the right direction please? Brian
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Posted By Steve Derby
Brian, I(we) had a similar problem with a previous employer. Not sure about entertainment licence, but we decided to fit a PA and play a radio station agreed upon in a vote. We needed an entertainment licence for that for sure.
I moved on before the system was up and running, but amongst other benefits the main one was that we(the employer) could set the volume for each work area.
There is of course an argument that we were contravening NAW regs by introducing an unnecessary source of noise, but that's one for the bonkers conkers brigade?
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Posted By Taff2
Do radios produce noise - or just sound.
Noise is unwanted sound - so you could well argue that the introduction of radio sound does not contravene the CNAW regs ..
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Posted By David Whaley
Brian,
I have no idea about licencing requirements. But I would like to comment on the advisability of allowing radios. If the noise in the work area is 80dB(A) or above, the radio would have to be played sufficiently loud for anyone to hear it, i.e. in excess of 80dB(A). This in turn would push up the noise level and the company would, in my opinion be in breach of the CNWR. If the level is below 80dB(A) with the radio on there would seem to be no problem.
David
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Posted By Brian Murray
That is the issue as there are a number of raeas that are ear protection zones as they exceed the upper level. Other areas are around the lower level yet the radios increase the noise level
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Posted By stevehaigh
Are you linking the volume control into the fire alarm system ie radios shut down when the alarm goes off
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Posted By Ali
1. Ensure the noise level is under 85 dBA, which reduces the need to assess noise
2. You do not require a PEL unless you are entertaining the public - in any case the PEL has since been replaced by the Premises Licensing Act 2005 and you certainly do not require a premises licence !
3. Ensure there is no noise outbreak via open windows etc or you could be contravening the Environmental Protection Act 1990 s79
Ali
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Posted By sga
You do not need a PEL.
You do need a licence from the PRS to play copyrighted music. Although any listeners who wear hearing protection do not count in the figures which you have to submit to them...
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Posted By John Murgatroyd
"Any location or premises, outside of home, where music is played from clubs to concert halls, from discos to dentists’ waiting rooms and from trains to takeaways. The owner/proprietor of the premises is normally responsible for obtaining a PRS Music Licence for the public performance of copyright music"
http://www.mcps-prs-alli...aveaPRSMusicLicence.aspx
I think it's about 75 quid a year at the moment...which depends on what you play, where you play it and how long it's played for.
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Posted By Merv Newman
Oh dear. Lets talk real life here. What happens in reality ?
H&S will do a noise survey with machines on and off and come up with a sound level chart defining where hearing protection is required.
Employees will then plug in a radio or a CD player. And turn it up so that they can hear the music over all that noise. I have never known a plant that took radio/CD music into account.
One of my memories is of a line mating engines to front axles. Tough gang. Mohicans, tattoos, piercings. And a CD playing classical music. With muscle. Beethoven's fifth, Mussorgsky's "Night on a bare mountain", "Hall of the mountain kings", "Mars" and so on. They bounced with the rhythm's. No way were they going to complain about excessive noise levels.
Ram Dam. I bought the CD to play in the car.
Merv
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Posted By Bob Shillabeer
Well said Mervyn, What are you thinking of doing noise assessments of a radio!! If it to loud turn it off and tell them not to use it without permission. Radios are a distraction from the work i hand. If the work is such that full concentration is required ban them, otherwise alow them to be used as back ground fill where the work is boring but make sure it is not distracting anyone from thier work. Forget about the noice levels because if it pusshes the noice level antwhere near the threshold stop it being used. End of story, balance is vital in anything like this because if it is not balanced it will be used illegally.
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