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#1 Posted : 07 November 2007 09:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ronan Can anyone advise me of the best way, economically and environmentally, of disposing of water based paint? We have around fifty tins of it lying in our yard. I had a quote for the region of £800, this seems ridiculous and unfeasible. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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#2 Posted : 07 November 2007 09:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter Ronan If they are unopened and fairly new, will the manufacturer take it back? Paul
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#3 Posted : 07 November 2007 09:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jane Blunt If it is the sort of paint that one might use at home have you thought of local organisations who might want it? We have a Carnival each year and are always looking for water-based paints of any colour to paint our cardboard, hardboard etc. Jane
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#4 Posted : 07 November 2007 09:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By stevehaigh For larger amounts and all solvent-based product disposal, speak to your local authority who will advice on the best course of action.
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#5 Posted : 07 November 2007 10:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By CFT At first I thought 50 tons was rather a lot of paint; on re-reading I see it is 'tins', clearly it is time for another eye test! I agree with Jane, its a cracking idea, the carnival here on Friday is allegedly the biggest and best in the country and the gangs would simply bite your hand off to get the paint for next year. It would seem such a shame to dispose of it; I suppose it depends on the colour of course, day- glo pink may not be quite the gift one may perceive it to be! CFT
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#6 Posted : 07 November 2007 10:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By rks do a car boot sale.
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#7 Posted : 07 November 2007 10:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By N Smith Ronan We are a College, our Art Department have a lot of their paints, etc donated by local companies. Try your local Colleges, they may be interested Neil
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#8 Posted : 07 November 2007 10:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze What is the type of product? Assuming the product is not frost damaged, the supplier may take it back by agreement. Alternatively, Jane's suggestion sounds good and may even be used by you as a PR opportunity. Failing this do you have a large factory that needs painting in the near future? If the product is however frost damaged, then licenced disposal is your only real option. Water based products still contain large quantities of resins, pigments, fillers and other nasties which must NOT be disposed to foul sewer. Similarly liquids must NOT be disposed via your normal landfill route. (Perhaps an ESG member could clarify current law on this?) I'm sure you weren't going to do the above, but I have had the conversation before, so it was worth stating explicitly.
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#9 Posted : 07 November 2007 10:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By teaboy we give all ours to a local training provider to train apprentice decorators, they dont care about the colours, its all in the prep and application - apparently
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#10 Posted : 07 November 2007 10:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By John A Wright This is yet another example of posters responding on a thread where there is insufficient information. The mention of 'waterbased paint' and the respondents assume Ronan has 50 tins of household decorative paint. Ronan may have industrial paint, e.g. protective coatings, automotive coatings which require special spraying equipment for proper application, they may also require warm/hot air and even ovens at 140degC to dry, being water-based it may have been frozen last winter and has now settled out and is useless, it may be a primer so it's not suitable for use outside, so suggesting a car boot or giving the paint to a local community centre etc etc may present further problems. Ronan, please provide more information about the paint, it's age, condition and how it should be applied (brush, roller, spray gun etc) and what it's original purpose was e.g. decorative, anti-corrosive, primer, exterior coating etc. John W
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#11 Posted : 07 November 2007 10:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis Ronan If the charity route fails AND you are going to have to dispose of this the best option is to open all the tins and mix the conteents into containers of sand. Allow the paint to cure. It does not matter whether they are oil or water based as the net result needs to be cured paint which is no longer then subject to the Hazardous Waste Regs requirements. They can then be disposed of to normal landfill. Dilution down the drains is not an option unless your discharge consents for the drains allows for this - which would be very unusual unless you are in fact a chemical plant or similar. Bob
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#12 Posted : 07 November 2007 10:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze All good points John, we do need more information on the product. The product I had in mind was an exterior masonry paint.
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#13 Posted : 07 November 2007 13:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Eric Taylor Might be a bit controversial but how about you take the lids off, let the water evaporate then dispose of as solid waste?
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#14 Posted : 07 November 2007 13:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze The problem with water based paints is that they dry slower in winter because of higher relative humidity levels and cooler temperatures. You're more likely to end up with spillages due to rainwater collection in the open buckets. It might work for smaller quantities in the summer though.
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#15 Posted : 07 November 2007 14:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis Which is why I always mix such as these with inert material such as sand etc to ensure faster and more even drying rate. If they have been there log then a month or two wait is not much to worry about Bob
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#16 Posted : 07 November 2007 17:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lee Daniels We have the same issue, 50 or so tins of paint left over from a contract which we will never use. I have contacted a charity through their website and they are willing to accept paint in a usable condition, including part full tins, subject to a few criteria e.g. paint must not have hazardous properties such as toxic or corrosive. It's all on their website www.communityrepaint.org.uk They may charge a nominal fee but it would be far cheaper than your disposal quote.
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#17 Posted : 08 November 2007 23:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martin Taylor sorry to be a damp squib but if you pass this paint on to a charity operation or similar don't forget that you will be the supplier of a chemical product so you will need to supply copies of MSDS and make sure that the packaging is still in good condition and contains all necessary warnings and information sorry - sounds an excellent idea but need to make sure that nobody gets harmed as a result of your generosity Martin
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