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Posted By Melanie Fellows I'm not sure if this is an HR or training issue (or both).
We have a person who is very flamboyant in his regard to PPE - he loses it, he damages it, he destroys it. I think it's because he likes clean and new PPE whenever he can. For example, gauntlets which last everyone else a month, he uses two or three pairs a week. Hi-viz vests seem to be his favourite - he stands on them and rips the shoulders out of them - he tends to go through a minimum of 5 per week (that I know of!).
My question is, can we charge him for some of his PPE (only the replacement of wilfully damaged ones), or is it unlawful?
Thanks,
Mel
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Posted By Liesel How about S8 HASWA "No person shall intentionally or recklessly interfere with or misuse anything provided in the interests of health, safety or welfare in pursuance of any of the relevant statutory provisions"... ?
Also, does your company disciplinary system deal with this?
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Posted By M J Matthews Hi
Law states we cannot charge for anything provided in the interests of health and safety have had employees who show a wilfull disregard for equipment including PPE. I have always dealt with it the same way, bring into issue your disciplinary procedure,this normally helps the situation, if they haven't got the issued and signed for equipment they cannot safely carry out the job we pay them for.
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Posted By Melanie Fellows It's a bit tricky as we don't have a signing out procedure - the PPE is free to access by all personnel (everyone signed for the first item, then signed to say they understood they could replace it when required).
They are not allowed to work without full PPE (and in most cases wouldn't want to work without the PPE).
We haven't gone down the disciplinary route yet - it's only just been brought to my attention now that its reaching silly proportions. So I will speak to our office manager and the works manager to set that in motion.
Thanks,
Mel
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Posted By Konstanty Budkiewicz Melanie,
I want to duck your question and propose an alternative course of action. I suggest that you deal with this situation as a training issue. The work undertaken by your miscreant must have some degree of training. The task must have been risk assessed otherwise a decision to use PPE would not have been arrived at. Pulling these aspects together your management are in a position to query why the PPE is not durable, suitable and sufficient for this member of staff. Take the opportunity to involve the miscreant in a review of the risk assessment. This should reveal what his local usage problem is. Using this as a baseline you may wish to call for the PPE to be examined at the end of each shift for a period of time. This will provide further evidence that the person is now working as trained.
In the medium term comment should be raised in their 6-monthly review of performance, and future targets agreed.
The above is proposed because HR will no doubt ask for evidence before they take any action.
Kon CMIOSH
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Posted By Melanie Fellows Sounds like a plan! Thanks Konstanty.
Mel
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Posted By Tabs Ultimately, unless you give the PPE to the employee, it remains the property of the company and any intentional damage could be argued to be criminal damage and a clear case of gross misconduct ...
I would not suggest you actually use that until everything else is exhausted - but it would not be fair to start any process without first informing them of the possibility that it would escalate to that.
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Posted By Karen Todd Wilful destruction of Company property = disciplinary investigation.
HR should deal with, there could be other issues, behaviour sounds attention seeking at the very least.
KT
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Posted By Ron Hunter I don't think that could be described as "flamboyant" Melanie!!!
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Posted By Garry Adams Melanie
sounds like you got liability on your hands, this employee costs a fortune, cut your costs and sack him, He could cost your orginisation more than the replacement of his daly consumption of P.P.E.
Garry...
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Posted By Bob Shillabeer This is a simple matter of disipline. How does the work undertaken by this person differ from others? If the PPE supplied is of a good quality and fit for purpose why is it the person concerned is using so much? Is he doing more work than anyone else or is it he is deliberatly damaging the PPE supplied. If its the latter there is a strong case for disiplinary action. But, first check that the PPE you provide is fit for the purpose it is intended for.
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Posted By Melanie Fellows Thanks very much for every-ones' responses.
I will be opting for instruction and training, then be moving onto the discipline route if no improvements are made.
Bob - I did make a check to ensure the PPE is suitable and sufficient, and it is, the problem is that he damages it on purpose.
Thanks once again!
Mel
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