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#1 Posted : 09 November 2007 08:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andrew Cartridge
An interesting article at:

http://www.nurs.co.uk/ne...512671212694732524_1.htm


Comments ??


Andy
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#2 Posted : 09 November 2007 08:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian G Hutchings
Andrew

Thanks for this link. This sounds about right to me. I think that good quality training of line managers and especially site managers/agents in construction (which this research looked at) definitely has an impact on H&S performance. This is because it alters peoples risk perceptions and 'risk sensitivity'.

Obviously there are caveats to this. Competence comes from role models in the business and on site, as well as training. I don't personally believe that the sheep-dip approach always works, i.e. lets put all our managers through X training course. Its about having very defined expected changes in behaviour, directors and managers reinforcing these and then having good output measures in place. Does this training work versus our investment? Not just a tick in the box but an actual visible result.

All good

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#3 Posted : 09 November 2007 08:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kieran J Duignan
An unusually incisive and practical account of how sustained change has been achieved in many large, complex organisations (including high hazard railway and air transport operations in the UK and Australia) is explained in 'Leadership for Competitive Advantage' by Nick Georgiades and Richard Macdonell (Wiley, 1998).

They explain, with substantial and rigorous statistical analysis how much management practices (including behavioural reinforcement)- in parallel with leadership, vision and cultural changes - lead to employee safety and commitment as organic elements of competitive advantage.

Available research indicates how, on their own, the net effect of training and management, even of the 'behavioural safety variety, is not sustainable.
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#4 Posted : 09 November 2007 09:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Konstanty Budkiewicz
The study indicated that ANY training is beneficial.
This is consistent with a statement in Principles of Health and Safety at Work, Page 133. This text entitled Controlling Construction Accidents states "Training in techniques and skills for workers should include a strong health and safety element. Management training is especially important; it fosters that positive commitment to health ans safety and the positive culture".

Taking an overview of any organisation's operations, training is a vital element in the hearts and minds approach to achieving significant improvements in safety, operational effectiveness, and reduced costs. It is not cost-effective to use only H&S professionals to drive H&S forward. As indicated in the report it needs embedded suitably trained managers.

It is a pity that this principle was not mentioned in the Bible (possibly when building the Ark or the tower of Babel etc): it could have prevented a whole load of today's construction problems, e.g. Yesterday's Dubai bridge collapse.
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#5 Posted : 09 November 2007 23:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By D H
As I stated in the paper mill post, I feel supervisors should be able to pass the A1 assessors qualification to be able to supervise properly.

I can see legislation changing shortly to ensure reduction of damage figures to workers by puting the pressure on the supervisors.

Supervisors need to be aware of their responsibilities if they are delegating tasks to others.
With the new Corporate Manslaughter charge coming in, I feel more supervisors rather than MDs will be in the dock.

So - if you are a supervisor, are you competent? Do you have enough training? If not can you get it? Do you know your requirements to your workers under law? Can you get your A1 assessors badge?

SORRY FOR THE RANT - BUT SUPERVISORS BEWARE!!
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#6 Posted : 12 November 2007 09:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andy Brazier
You may be interested in a research project for HSE that I led, looking at Supervision in the chemical and allied industries. The report is available at http://www.hse.gov.uk/research/rrhtm/rr292.htm

A key findings was that it is often not possible, and often not helpful to see supervision as an individual's job. It is actually a management function that may be delivered by one or more people, who may work within or outside of the team. However, it is an absolutely key function that is often overlooked.

One of the key problems for people who have a supervisory role is finding the time to fulfill it. This is especially the case where the individual also has an operational role.

I agree training of supervisors can have a role in improving safety, but there are far more organisational and cultural factors that have a greater influence.

By the way, is the original report by Glasgow Caledonian University available anywhere. I've had a quick google and didn't find it.
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#7 Posted : 12 November 2007 10:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By M J Matthews
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The training of supervisory staff should be high on the agenda of any organisation, in my opinion the supervisor is first link in the health and safety chain, this is the person who has the day to day responsibility for ensuring that SOP's are adhered to and that correct training is given and recorded, I have worked for organisations where the supervisor is seen as the person who ensures that work is completed on time and that products move to the next operation etc, but with little or no input into the health and safety aspects of the job.
We all appreciate that when it comes to adverse event investigation the supervisor is the first person we look at to ensure work instructions etc have been followed. I have found that by ensuring investment in health and safety training as well as other essential training pays dividends, not just with the supervisor but with the employees the supervisor is responsible for.

Mick M

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#8 Posted : 12 November 2007 11:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
DH

You touch on the real issue for supervision for me! Are you, as a supervisor, able to assess competence? At the end of the day any organisation that is managing competence adequately relies on its supervisors and managers to monitor performance, including H&S. The measurement/monitoring must be against benchmarks/standards and thus the A1 standards need to be met.

In construction the competence needs are more clearly set out in the CDM07 acop and it is a fact that many contractors have not yet come to terms with the realities of competence assessment and proof.

Bob
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