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Posted By Pat O'Leary
Hi
A young person aged 17 has had an accident with a unguarded router and lost the top of two fingers. The company are trying to say it was his fault for not using the equipment properly. It appears that he had little or no training. The company have not been in touch with him or his family and have not paid him since the accident. where does he stand
thanks
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Posted By AF
Pat
Without being over critical, is this for real?
If I was the company, and this scenario happened, I would be very worried - big time.
A
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Posted By David J Jones
Pat,
On the face of it, I believe the YP has a very strong case against his employer.
When reading your post the first things that came to mind were, training, supervision, suitable and very specific RA and an unguarded machine.
There are obviously a lot of details which must be associated with this "accident" to which we are not party but it looks as if the employer knows he's in the brown and sticky stuff and is doing a good ostrich number!
David
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Posted By Les Welling
A agree! I assume this was reported to the HSE under RIDDOR? I am surprised they have not launched an investigation - or maybe they have? Have the company a H&S officer? Has he carried out an investigation? I think that the youngster has a good case and the company have cause for concern. Certainly they must ensure that this will not happen again.
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Posted By M J Matthews
Hi Pat
From your original post I would assume that you have knowledge of the Young Persons name and the name of the employer, I would in your position take the moral high ground and contact the local HSE office and speak to an inspector, This situation needs to be placed in their hands if not already done so by the employer.
Regards
Mick M
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Posted By Pat O'Leary
Thanks to all that replied. The information I have been given was a bit sketchy but the replies I have received, corresponds with my first thoughts I do believe that the company in question has not fulfilled their duty of care in any thought and deed and are trying maybe to shift the blame.
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Posted By Patrick Canning
Pat, i had something the same happen with a young person, little training and no guard, the company do not have a leg to stand on. HSWA I.S.I.T. Information, Supervision,Induction,Training. The fact that the company has not contacted the young man shows the lack of care, there is nothing to saw that they can not enquire into his well being, as for his wages this must not be allowed to happen. a thrid party should contact the company to question them on his wages, a local councillor or MP??? The company should have carried out RA on this young person using a machine, and the YP informed of the findings and new SSOW for the YP again the findings should have been given to the YP.
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Posted By The toecap
If the YP was on a apprentice scheme the scheme provider also need notifying. The scheme provider may lso have to shoulder some of the blame for not conducting diligent checks on the employer
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Posted By Pat O'Leary
Hi
Thanks to all of you who responded. just to update you the HSE has gone in and carried out a full investigation, the IP has stated that he received no training on the equipment. The collage that organised his training is also investigating and his family are now taking legal advice
Thanks again
Pat
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