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Posted By colin james clark
Has anyone used the new pop up platforms?
I am currently looking at hiring one in and noticed that the safe working platform is 240 kg,how would one calculate the weight of a person plus tools,and would this information need to appear on a risk assessment and permit?
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Posted By Merv Newman
Colin,
sorry but I don't know what you mean by a "pop-up".
However, my fighting weight is about 70 Kg, (14 stone 2 lb)(at 2.204 lbs per kilo) so that seems to leave a fair margin for "tools"
If it gets critical don't forget to weigh the sandwiches then add in the weight of harness, hard hat and safety boots.
Hi-Vi's vests, safety glasses and gloves are assumed to be of negligible weight. Despite employee complaints.
Merv
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Posted By colin james clark Hi Merv Please click on the follwing web site for more information could this be the way of the future? www.popupproducts.co.uk
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Posted By Dave Merchant
It's a scissor-lift. A small one, but still a scissor-lift and subject to all the same regs, training and best practices others are - I'd suggest talking to IPAF and getting users their 3(a) certs. I disagree strongly with their website claim "No formal training required" - as with all scissors there are a multiplicity of ways it can put you in touch with your personal God.
As to the mass of a standard person with tools, the current British figure is 136kg. EU product standards use 100kg for "a person" without tools, but the HSE's guidance is to raise that significantly (because of our national devotion to the Doner Kebab and not because of excess muscle mass).
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Posted By DKH
If you look at the product spec sheet they state 1 person + 160kg tools & materials.
As for the training their may be no formal training required "i would take advice on this"
there is however the need to provide adequate training under PUWER reg 9.
colin do not forget to ensure the equipment is inspected under LOLER six monthly also
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Posted By maddog RM
I contacted IPAF months ago about these. IPAF state they require formal training and they can deliver. However, I believe this decision was more commercial than health and safety. The IPAF categories don't come in until 2008 but it's good to see that almost 10 years after PUWER and LOLER someone is paying attention to additional training when new technology or equipment is introduced.
These pop up MEWP's are self propelled, there was some initial debate from those that thought M was for mechanised instead of mobile in MEWP as to whether they were a MEWP or not.
Having worked with the company that brought these to market I can understand why they say not formal training required!!
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Posted By GT
Merv,
You gave me a terrible fright running into xmas 70 kg = 14 stone????
I need not to eat for the next 22 days.
GT
merry xmas to all
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
I cannot see any reason to regard these as anything other than a scissor lift and think that any operative will therefore need appropriate training on its use. That is not to say that those currently holding IPAFF for large scissors however need a second certificate.
Bob
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Posted By M&S
We had to have training on them before the main contrcator would allow us to use them on site. This was on top of our lads already having an IPAF card.
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