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Posted By Brenda H
Hi there,
I am H&S qualified and have a general understanding of CDM although no practical experience as such.
I have a new job and they would like me to become the CDM co-ordinator for projects.
I am keen to develop into this work but would like further training.
Can anyone recommend a course?
Thanks
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Posted By Emma Forbes
Hi Brenda
If you look on the Association for Project Safety website (google it and it'll come up) and this will guide you to providers and membership for the association.
Good luck.
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Posted By Brenda H
Hi Emma,
Thanks for the link, i've just had a look.
Is it usual for someone who takes on this roll to belong to a group such as this?
Are our H&S (nebosh) Dips not sufficient? (thinking not, but just asking so I can put my case together)
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Posted By Brenda H
Also ought to add, the other roll that is being considered is one of an 'auditor', i.e. not acting as the co-ordinator, but the person who checks on our contractors through the life of a project.
Any particular training for this?
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Posted By Ron Hunter
The required competencies to undertake the CDM-C role (as laid down in Appendix 4 of the CDM Approved Code of Practice) are quite rigorous.
Experience and understanding of the design process and industry hazards is also required, and competency is more something that can be achieved collectively rather than individually.
Achieving a pass via APS exams will not in itself demonstrate competency.
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Posted By Brenda H
Ok thanks Ron for your input.
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Posted By Mal
Hi Brenda, i can vouch for the fact that joining the APS or taking one of its courses will be of assistance to you in your quest to perform the CDM-C function on projects.
Whilst, as Ron pointed out, being a member of the APS or passing one of its accreditated courses does not make you competent, it does contribute towards the demonstration of competence.
If your read the ACOP, you will see that a large part of demonstrating competence is task based, so you need the qualifications, the membership of recognised bodies, the cpd records, but you also need the task based experience.
APS provide national and regional cpd which specificaly targets the CDM duty holders and what is required under CDM.
There is also a plethora of guidance out there now on CDM 2007.
Best of luck with your endeavours, regards, Mal
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Posted By Michael Battman
It is essential that anyone carrying out the duties of the CDM-C is familiar with and experienced of the design process.
Unfortunately training courses cannot help you with that - only working in the construction industry will suffice.
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Posted By SJA
Brenda
As others have indicated above simply being a competent H&S professional will not make you a CDM Co-ordinator, nor will a 5 CDM course or completing the APS exams. Joining the APS is certainly a step in the right direction, but I would strongly suggest that you need to gain experience of the role by either shadowing or working as an assistant to a competent experienced CDM Co-ordinator.
As indicated above, have a look at the CDM ACOP, it clearly spells out the competence criteria that you should be working towards.
Hope this helps and good luck
SJA
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Posted By Granville Jenkins
Hi Brenda
Check out the NEBOSH Construction Certificate - it will give you a severe grounding in construction health and safety, but at least you will then be on the right road to becoming a fully fledged CDM-Co-ordinator - knowledge being only part of the deal, then you need to gain practical experience and the NEBOSH Construction Certificate is the passport that can open doors.
The next thing you will need is oodles of practical experience, from this end I would suggest that you tackle a few maybe up to 10 smaller projects and develop your confidence so that you can be at ease when tackling the medium to larger project.
I definitely would not recommend jumping in at the deep end - the consequences of getting it completely wrong can be pretty severe (and ignorance in a court of law is not an excuse). From a Health and Safety perspective you can be personally liable to a fine of up to £20,000 and/or 2 years in prison, also if your employer knowingly gives you a job that you are not competent to fulfill they will also find themselves in hot water - the HSE have a habit these days of going for the person at the top of the chain of command - in the belief that all good stuff (sh*t)travels down, and if the person at the top gets his feathers ruffled you can bet the people below will feel the repercussions.
Regards
Granville
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