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Posted By steve e ashton Its been said before (not least on this site) and no doubt it'll be said again, but some of you may still be interested in yet more news of police concern following the successful H&S prosecution of the met.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/...d/merseyside/7129004.stmHo Hum....
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Posted By Pete48
Steve, shame about your thread title. I think this is genuine support of H&S not the contrary.
Here is a responsible manager saying the law is an ass, or at least the way it has been administered recently leaves a lot of everyday concerns. This is not the first serving senior police officer to come out on this issue and I see it as visible support for our calls for sensible H&S. I would hazard a guess that these opinions carry far more weight than any "safety" opinion.
If that speeds a sensible outcome then I give it my full support.
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Posted By Berg
"Health and safety law says the police service, like all emergency services, should look at the risk involved and if there's a reasonable risk and they've put all the safety precautions in place can they then take it.
"That seems to be a contradiction and members of the public aren't governed by the same law.
There is no contradiction. A member of the public is governed by the same law while at work.
The police seem to really struggle with the notion of quantifying risks and giving their officers reasonable guidance.
The De Menezes case was a tragic failure to protect MOP's.
The CSO's who were who were criticised a few months ago for not wading into a pond to search for a submerged child acted perfectly reasonably. It would be like running into a cofined space to rescue sonmeone, how many are supposed to run in before the bravery standard is reached?
The Emergency Services have a duty to train and inform their employees on how to best make these judgements. The Chief Constables statement appears to be saying that his hands are tied cos of Safety Regs.
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