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Posted By Francis E S Hone
I want to train some people in house on the subject of abrasive wheels. is this a subject which requires a recognised Certified Trainer or can a TECH IOSH already trained in abrasive wheel mounting be deemed competent to carry out this training? Taking into account the abrasive wheels regulations.
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
What Abrasive Wheel Regulations?
Bob
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Posted By Bob Youel
In my opinion to teach/train etc you have to be 'competent' in the art of teaching/training in just the same way as in any other area
To teach a specific high risk subject area you should also be competent re that high risk subject thus joining two competences together
Competence is made up of many parts inclusive of having academic qualifications
Unless you are at least a 'trained trainer' and are competent re the subject you are to train in then the training session could come back to haunt you some day
In many situations its cheaper etc to use outsiders to undertake training. Use of external providers can also help you in a defense if you needed one
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Posted By Francis E S Hone
Thanks guys Ill let some one else do the training
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Posted By Ian_P
What Bob L is getting at is that the Abrasive Wheels Regulations 1970 were 'replaced' by the Provision and Use of Work Equipment Regulations (PUWER) and in some part by the Supply of Machinery (Safety) Regulations in 1992.
HSG 17 gives guidance of how to comply with PUWER with relation to abrasive wheels and has a section on what areas should specifically be trained.
As for competence of trainers it's the same as all modern legislation i.e. those with 'adequate' technical knowledge & 'suitable' experience etc. can teach it. (see Bob Y's Post.)
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Posted By Ian Mitchell
Hi. My organisation allows me to train staff members, so long as:
i) I have a trainer's qualification (in my case the CIEH professional trainer's certificate)
and ii) I am formally qualified to a level higher than the subject matter. For example, I have a manual handling assessor's one day course, so I could do a half day in-house manual handling training course.
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Posted By teaboy
forgive my ignorance here but would registration with the institute for learning be relevant here, it does state teachers, tutors and trainers must be registered for cpd and i know that the CITB require trainers to register
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Posted By Robert.
CIEH PTC is an excellent qualification. However there are alot of individuals who have limited subject knowledge but are naturally "gifted" at presentation. If the training material is available and is accurate and up to date then subject knowledge is not that important. It is the method of instruction that counts. That, actually, is the basis of the PTC and for many many years how the military carried out basic weapon training.
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Posted By Francis E S Hone
thanks to all who have responded I think I may try to get myself on the CIEH PTC if possible I am told their is funding for personel improvement.
Merry Xmas To all
think ill sign out till the new year.
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