Posted By p winter
Would be interested in other members views. A paint plant is replaced in an Engineering factory. One safety man says CDM regs apply - as paint plant is fixed plant another says no because the paint plant is work equipment.

Could any members please with experience in this area give a view.

Thanks

Posted By TomP
Size does matter, as you say...

To quote from the AcOP:

CDM applies: If it involves substantail dismantling or alteration of fixed plant which is large enough to be a structure in its own right.....

But unless it's going to take so long it's notifiable, the implications aren't much different to those under the general management regulations - risk assessment, competent people etc.

Posted By Robert K Lewis
Paint plant is a structure and therefore the following definitions from regulation 2 apply

(c)the assembly on site of prefabricated elements to form a structure or the disassembly on site of prefabricated elements which, immediately before such disassembly, formed a structure;

(d)the removal of a structure or of any product or waste resulting from demolition or dismantling of a structure or from disassembly of prefabricated elements which immediately before such disassembly formed such a structure;

CDM thus applies as the work is construction work. This is regardless of project length.

Bob

Posted By Liz Bennett
Some sensible advice posted but the best is "What difference does it make?" as Tom P infers. You still have to develop a safe system of work etc so your Method Statement and your H&S Plan start becoming almost the same. The main difference is likely to be whether you need to pay for CDMC support and all that this entails. Can you not deal with the role internally by using your in house H&S expert or asking the contractor to deal with the function? There are many ways to deal effectively with CDM but it is only really about doing construction work safely. The law demands that ALL work is conducted safely and healthily (SFARP). I hope it goes well.
Liz Bennett