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#1 Posted : 03 January 2008 09:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By rks
A friend of mine is undertaking a new build house development. He is employing the builders / joiners etc seperately.

What are his responsibilities under CDM?

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#2 Posted : 03 January 2008 09:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By Arran Linton - Smith
That information is clearly shown on http://www.hse.gov.uk/construction/cdm.htm
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#3 Posted : 03 January 2008 09:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martyn Hendrie
What does he intend doing with the house when it is complete? (live in it; sell it; rent it out?)

This would have a bearing on his legal duties
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#4 Posted : 03 January 2008 09:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By rks
Hwe is going to live in it.

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#5 Posted : 03 January 2008 09:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Arran Linton - Smith
Rks,

You should now have more than sufficient information to complete your research into this question.
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#6 Posted : 03 January 2008 10:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Youel

Also make your friend aware that they are fully liable and responsible for all environmental aspects of such work as well; as environmental laws apply to the public, as individuals in all and every situation where CDM does not and the EA enforcers are not as friendly as the HSE etc should they become involved!

Additionally the public [your friends neighbours etc] can much more easily enforce Env laws themselves than they can or want to enforce H&S laws

A recent civil case cost a 'self' builder a lot of £! remembering that you cannot insure against a fine

Having said all that - apply common sense + high standards and the job should be a success
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#7 Posted : 03 January 2008 12:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By rks
I am presuming then that my friend is classed as abusiness( for profit or not) Then?

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#8 Posted : 03 January 2008 13:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By Adrian
If this is a domestic dwelling for their own use and not for financial gain your friend will be exempt from CDM however he has a over all responsibility for the health and safety of his contractors and should make them aware of any residual risks to that site or building materials.
Adrian
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#9 Posted : 04 January 2008 08:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By rks
So from this am I to understand that the project is non-reportable and no CDM-coodinator will be required or associated plans?

But he will have to put risk assessments,method statements,welfare etc in place.

Your input is much appreciated.

Regards.
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#10 Posted : 04 January 2008 08:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
RKS

You are trying to step into the responsibilities of the contractor. Just because your "friend" is a domestic client he personally has no responsibilities under the regulations. Beyond that he is the same as any owner of a parcel of land. During construction the contractor carries the responsibilities for the management of the site.

If however your "friend" decides he is building a house to sell then he ceases to be a domestic client and becomes subject to the regulations as client in the full sense of the word. Don't complicate the matter too much.

Bob

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#11 Posted : 04 January 2008 09:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By rks
The problem is that my friend is going to be managing the project himself from start to finish and the project is a large 5 bed 4 storey residence so he wants everything to be right from start to finish.

the contyractors he will be using will be 1 man bands or small companies with less than 5 employees.

will my friend have to submitt a F10 in this instance?

regards.
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#12 Posted : 04 January 2008 09:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
rks

If your friend is a builder he will know the answers to these questions. If he is not a builder then he is nuts to try and do it in the way you are describing. With a house this size the build costs alone more than justify the employment of a decent project manager for the work and it will wotk out far cheaper in the end. More, money and sense come to mind.

Bob
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