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#1 Posted : 10 January 2008 14:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian Clay1
I am sure I already know the answer to this one but would like others views.
A manager has hired a lifting platform for carrying out work at heights. the only training that the staff who will be using this have had is a 2 minute briefing from the hire company. i would have thought that a longer training session would be needed. would I be correct?
i would be interested to hear other peoples experiences.
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#2 Posted : 10 January 2008 14:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By cvjm
Weird - I am just looking at it myself.. believe you need this type of course

http://www.facelift.co.u...ining-powered-access.cfm

1 day training (5 yr licence)

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#3 Posted : 10 January 2008 14:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve E
HI,
IPAF or the International Powered Access Federation (www.ipaf.org), have the information you need, they all have training. I trust the workers are also working to the working at height Regs and have suitable fall arrests

Regards
Steve
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#4 Posted : 10 January 2008 15:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Merchant
What type of platform is it?


Cherry-picker and scissor-lift equipment would normally need some level of training as there are potentials for misuse (overbalancing, overloading, etc.) but how much you need depends on the work and the equipment in question. You need to be 'competent' in the law, but there are many ways to get there. Nationally, most people will point at an organization like IPAF who certifies training courses through a network of local providers, but the HSE doesn't care who trains you, or if it's in-house or not, as long as it creates someone who's truly competent. The people who usually DO care are your insurers, who often insist on a particular type of certificate. I'd talk to them first, then pick your options - otherwise you may find you pay for something your insurance broker refuses to accept.
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#5 Posted : 11 January 2008 00:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter
You say "using". Do you mean using or do you mean operating? Big difference. MEWPS etc. can be hired with a trained operator.
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#6 Posted : 11 January 2008 15:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alan Woodage
Ian,
To clarify the 2 minutes from the hire company delivering the machine would be classed as Type Familiarisation and not operator training, in summary 2 minutes is where the controls, dipstick, fuel, battery charger plugs in on that particular machine. this will not be how to operate the machine safely, ground conditions, obstructions, overhead obstructions, safe wind speed etc etc. The IPAF training is a 1 day course for operating the type of plant the 2 min's is the specific controls of the machine. Also what would happen if your operative was to use the machine at work and panic due to height or swaying of the machine, in training there is practical assessment and competent instructors there to deal with this scenario.
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#7 Posted : 11 January 2008 16:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Wilson
If you are using "Powered Access" equipment eg boom, cherry picker etc there is NO legal requirement to use IPAF, however you would probably been silly not to do so.

The requirement is that the person 'has to be competent to use'
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