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#1 Posted : 16 January 2008 13:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Exdeeps
Hi there,
As it says in the subject line, this is one of those requests for help, but, I haven't seen this one before so here goes;
Having just been "elevated" to the position of secretary to a H&S committee I am struggling to understand my own notes, which means that the next set of minutes will be seriously rubbish. Any advise on rapid, logical note taking would be fantastic as would any ideas of how to lay out a template that I could use in the meeting to aid with the subsequent production of the minutes.
In anticipation of your help and advice,
Thank You,
Jim
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#2 Posted : 16 January 2008 13:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By Heather Collins
Jim

Two thoughts

1. Use an electronic white board for notes during the meeting and capture the main points on it with agreement from all present.

2. As you say, have a standard format and at each meeting bring along last time's format and simply add to it as you go along. Happy to send you a (blank!) copy of our format if you like.

Also don't try to write down everything. You simply need the gist of each point, what's going to be done about it, who's going to do it and what's the target date.
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#3 Posted : 16 January 2008 14:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By M Forbes
A possible route to look down is to record the meeting.


Regards

M Forbes
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#4 Posted : 16 January 2008 14:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jane Blunt
What I do is print out the agenda with 3 or 4 line spacing. I jot down under these headings the things that I really want to bring up and tick them off if I actually say it. In my notebook I write down what others say. The minutes are compiled from both sources, generally within 24 hours if I can while my memory is fresh.

The agenda is very detailed. I also circulate a draft so that people can mention before the meeting things that they want to bring up. This means that there is a note about most of the things that are going to be raised. It does not stop people bringing up fresh things at the meeting, but it does reduce the scribbling during the meeting.

Jane
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#5 Posted : 16 January 2008 15:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Bannister
In a non-h&s committee I have used Jane's concept of using the agenda as a template, adjusting my spacing in the light of experience.

Recording decisions and actions required rather than attempting to capture all the discussions will assist. If committee members want to see their names in the minutes I suggest that they should be encouraged to seek glory elsewhere.
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#6 Posted : 16 January 2008 15:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bryan Goldsmith 16052
Jim,

Being Exdeeps myself I would have thought that you would have been quite happy to sit in a corner and write down every thing that was said backwards on the reverse of a clear piece of perspex with a crayon - or was that before your time?

Seriously though I often have problems writing down and later being able to understand what has been said in a busy meeting. I usually just take bullet points which is fine if the meeting has your full attention. Where I work now we use Electronic Digital Pocket Memos - Like a Dictaphone - only more linked to a PC so that someone else can pick up the 'folder' and type up the document later.
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#7 Posted : 16 January 2008 15:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By srd
I also take the note at our meetings, and have the same trouble deciphering what was said afterwards.

I was considering using an electronic recording device placed in the centre of the table, but wasn't sure if they pick up all of the conversation clearly enough to be of use.

Does anyone else use such a device that they could recommend?

Stephen.
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#8 Posted : 16 January 2008 15:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By Exdeeps
Everyone,
Thanks, there is some good stuff here, I am already feeling happier about the next meeting.
Bryan, the control room was a strange place inhabited by strange people with staring eyes, I was far happier back aft in manoeuvring, even in EBS, whilst operating the can in the middle and doing drills and generally wearing soaking wet ovies - that was living!
Jim
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#9 Posted : 17 January 2008 09:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter
You could discuss this further with the Chair of the meeting. A clear "standing" agenda always helps, as does a strong chairperson who keeps discussion controlled and on topic. The best Chairpersons will also "sum up" each item before moving on to the next.
As secretary, there should be nothing wrong with you "chipping in" to ask for clarification or summation during the meeting.
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#10 Posted : 17 January 2008 11:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Angela Oakey-Jones
You could try using a mind map instead of making lines and lines of notes.

Mind maps are like spiders webs or bicycle wheels, where you note the title of the thing you're thinking about in the centre and then draw lines out with the ideas people come up with. Some people write the ideas, others draw little pictures to remind them and to speed up the process of getting the information down (rather like shorthand). Also, people use different colour pens to show things (in the safety committee you could use a different colour for management reps, safety reps and ex officio reps, for instance)

There are lots of easy, quick to read books on them. I enjoyed "mind maps in a week".

I tried this in a general meeting and found that I could track the information better than by trying to summarise what people had said. Against each agenda item I had one line saying the office manager's thoughts, and another for each person who contributed.

You could do this for each agenda item - maybe on a sheet of A4 for each item.

Hope this helps
Angela

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#11 Posted : 17 January 2008 12:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Exdeeps
Once again, thank you, there are some really helpful ideas here. Angela, you are right on the money with the mind map suggestion. I've been using them for several years to plan work etc but it didn't occur to me that I could use them for note taking in a meeting. (Tony Buzan must be making a fortune from his little books) The only problem I have found is people think I am not working because all I seem to be doing is drawing (bad) cartoons.
Jim
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#12 Posted : 18 January 2008 11:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By Angela Oakey-Jones
Exdeeps,
I wouldn't worry what people thought of what I was doing if it was helping me be effective...
Hope it goes well!

Angela
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