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Posted By Chris Costall
Hello all,
Advice please, I have an number of senior managers within my organisation (Installation of products into the new build sector, construction) that require some more in-depth H&S training due to there position.
Other senior managers prior to my appointment have been placed on the IOSH Managing Safely course, and from what I can gather have taken a lot out of it.
Does any one have an opinion on which course is better for senior management, IOSH Managing Safely, NEBOSH General Cert or even NEBOSH Construction Cert for an all round H&S course?
Thanks
Chris
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Posted By Philip Beale
NEBOSH course but can the company send senior managers away for a 2 week course. if they just need an overview then iosh might be the way to go. nebosh would be more suited to EHS dept.
phil
P.S haven't done iosh course but have done nebosh (one day a week for 11 weeks)
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Posted By PH
As someone who works for a training provider I would always recommend the Man Safely as a very good starting point. Even if your long term intention is to get everyone trained to NEBOSH level, the IOSH programme is an excellent introduction. 'Selling it' to the powers that be is also easier as it is cheaper and takes less time.
Cheers, P.
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Posted By Bob Shillabeer
What dp you want to achieve Chris, managers competent in H&S or just an understanding of thier duties? Rememeber they won't be using it every day as such but will need to understand the impact on safety thier decisions may have. They can get additional advice from the safety professional but need a good basic understanding of thier duties. Not aware of the content of the IOSH managing safety course but understand it is designed for managers whith overall responsibility not for ensuring compliance as such. They are managers not safety professionals, they have access to a safety profesional in some form surely. So why spend such a large time taking formal qualifications when they have access to such a facility.
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Posted By Paul Duell
Don't forget the IOSH "Safety for Senior Executives" course. It only lasts a day and it makes their responsibilities VERY clear to them!
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Posted By mikecooper i dont have a clue but how are you doing chris? what job you doing now? drop me an e-mail... mike-cooper@hotmail.com
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Posted By Lisa_
Having done both I would recommend the IOSH 4 day course. For business reasons it is going to be logistically easier for them to commit and actually stick by their commitment. We used to make it mandatory for line managers and above. The project at the end brings a business focus back in that they will appreciate more than revision and a practical assessment that they may struggle to relate to their actual job.
The cert does give a greater breadth of knowledge, however will it give you that much more of a benefit?- I would suggest only if you are in a really high risk environment.
I would also echo the earlier point of the 1 day awareness for senior mangers being worth its weight in gold.
The key to the course success is a good training provider that can keep things relevant and has a passion for the subject.
Good luck with whichever path ....
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Posted By Tony Brunskill
Chris,
I suggest a review of their individual responsibilities before deciding which is the better course. For Senior Managers neither may be appropriate. As a training provider that might sound a little strange. Training will only be effective if it is relevant to the individual.
Spending a day telling an FD how to do a risk assessment will waste his, your and the training providers time. Explaining the cost of accidents may be more beneficial.
Tailor it to suit, drop me an email and I mau be able to provide the format for a Training Needs Analysis and training matrix.
Tony
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