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Posted By Bob B
Hi all. I have recieved this email from a friend who has an issue with lighting. I thought I'd post it here as I know how helpful you guys (and girls) can be. Bob...
I am at a loss and completely stuck on what to do with a lighting issue I have at work
Basically I have a few staff complaining about lighting levels, these have been checked before and have been at the right levels and we are aware that these are not the most practical lights but we are looking at getting these changed but this cannot be done until we have had roof fixed to stop it leaking (which is being done at the moment)
I have one employee who is making my life relatively hard (thinking she knows more than me and making me feel rubbish!) She is currently sat at her desk with head in hands complaining about migraine, its an engineering dept and they had some lights that were on test (red blue and green) these were near her desk so I asked for them to be turned off whilst I tried to identify cause, she then said well I had these migraines when I was in old office (which was before I started here) but funnily enough I have only been made aware of this recently and none of her sick forms say migraine!
She has had her eyes tested and now has 2 lights in the office turned off and I do not know what else to do. SO any ideas, help would be great!
Thanks
Rachel :)
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter
Bob
Are the lights in question fluorescent? If so, one possibility is photo-epilepsy caused by the mains flicker. The employee in question should be referred to her GP.
Paul
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Posted By Keith Radcliffe
Hi Bob,
We have constant problems with colleagues/lighting and the perception of headaches, eye strain etc, however, I have a useful document which I use extracts from. In brief lighting [lux] levels do not not cause headaches or migraine's, if they did, then the sufferers would not be able to step foot outside either on a dull day, let alone a bright sunny day, as Lux levels in an office may be upto 750 lux and outside the Lux level can be 10,0000 lux. The main reason behind headaches etc is typically from glare/reflection, usually from poor housekeeping. Would you like a copy e-mailing?
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Posted By Ron Hunter
Your lights may or may not be the cause, but please do not take lightly (no pun intended)someone who is unfortunate enough to suffer from migraine. Even moderate light levels can be intolerable when an attack is in full swing.
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Posted By Edward Shyer
Have you checked out the monitor as this could have a bearing on the possible cause of the migraines.
regards
Ted
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Posted By Karen Wilson
We have managed to alleviate a similar problem by using colour tinted monitor overlays. These are available in a variety of colours and affected individuals may have a preference for a different colour from another sufferer.
There are also coloured overlays available for use over A4 sheets, or perspex rulers also.
I had never heard of these until my daughter was troubled at school. She requires a pink overlay over her text as the glare coming off the paper was causing her immense problems. She was also seeing colours around the edges of the paper. Resultant headaches and serious nausea - and she is only 8 years. The doctor is of the opinion that these could have been migraines.
Since the pink overlays she has completely settled and overcome her difficulty.
We applied the same principle in the workplace for the lady suffering similar difficulty to that which you have described. She has shown a preference for the mauve sheet. If you visit the following website you will find out much more information.
http://www.crossboweducation.com
Some opticians will provide a colour overlay preference test as part of their eye examination. Apparently most sufferers show a preference for either blue or yellow.
If the individual finds the coloured overlays of benefit, then there is also the option of having a full "scoptic screen" - where an individual can be issued with glasses with the appropriate tint applied - even to a non-prescription lens if required.
It is worth investigating. The overlays are not expensive.
I would be interested to know if you follow this on through and how effective it turns out to be. Suggest you contact a few of the local opticians to see if they provide this service (not all do).
[And of course - different bulbs/tubes emit light of different - whats the word? refractive index?..(no don't think that is the correct phrase}...anyhow...one supermarket likes the 'orange bulb' - so that their meat always looks red, a gents outfitter changed their lightbulbs to get rid of navy blue suits - which under the shop lights look grey - and then changed the bulbs back again once the excess stock had been cleared...., a car component paint spray manufacturer requires specific 'colour emitting light' to enable the 'true colour' to be seen properly within the factory environment...the physics of this is a little beyond me - but you could also check the colour emission from existing lights - its not just the lux value that is of significance]
Hope this helps
Karen
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Posted By Karen Wilson
And of course never try to pair up your navy socks and black socks in artificial light - its just about impossible - save that job until you have natural daylight!
Karen
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Posted By Chris Packham
If your person is working under fluorescent lighting, this may be an explanation of a genuine problem.
Some years ago I had to work in an office with no external windows and lit exclusively with fluorescent lights. I am a spectacle wearer. After about two weeks I started to notice frequent headaches. When I visited the optician (incidentally this was in Germany) he examined my eyes and immediately asked the question: "Do you work under fluorescent light?" He then prescribed slightly tinted spectacles, which resolved the problem. He commented that this was not an uncommon problem.
In another job (again in Germany) we found that with one piece of machinery we were getting a stroboscopic effect under fluorescent light, i.e. the rotating shaft appeared to be stationary. This did not happen under tungstent filament light.
Remember that fluorescent light is actually a series of flashes, generally of such frequency and duration that they cannot be detected by the human eye. However, there is evidence that they can cause problems in certain people.
Chris
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Posted By Glyn Atkinson
In the dim distant past of working as a tradesman, I suffered headaches from the use of large flourescent tubes to keep a work shop well lit.
From an eyesight test and trialing tinted and later reactolite type spectacles, this problem went.
The reacting lenses seemed to cope with the bright lights and could obviously compensate back for work in other areas where the lighting was different.
Has the person affected had a full eyesight test covering all of the potential for glaucoma etc. - Could be extra pressure being triggered behind the eyeball?
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Posted By CFT
Bob
If all that could be done has been done, survey, lux testing, any stroboscopic effects (I love that terminology)DSE and ergonomic surveys, possibly sending the employee to a nominated company OHN or Doc then you have done what would be expected to alleviate the problem, and would probably be best to wait for the medical/opthalmist report before making a final decision. I see little else that can be done for the on-going well being of this employee.
It may end up that the work is not suitable with their current condition, and a change in direction may be a consideration. Document all findings with the cooperation of the individual.
CFT
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Posted By Bob B
Hi all. Thanks for all the replies.
As I have said this isn't specifically my problem, more a friend of mine that sent the email. Reading the replies, there are a lot good suggestions for her to think about.
I have emailed her the link to this thread. I have also suggested that as someone with H&S responsibilities, she should sign up to this forum.
Bob
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