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#1 Posted : 01 February 2008 12:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By naomi Hi All Has any one got or know where I can get some bad examples of risk assessments from? I am looking for things such as to technical for some - one to understand, or missing the obvious risks. Thanks in advance Naomi
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#2 Posted : 01 February 2008 12:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By CW Stick a pin in the building contractor section of the yellow pages.
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#3 Posted : 01 February 2008 12:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By John J Naomi, I could send you some of my early ones but out of embarassment I won't. If your looking for examples of poor quality control measures the one that annoys me most of all is 'PPE to be worn'. It means absolutely nothing. Imagine being in a court of law - 'It says here PPE to be worn. What wear you wearing when you got chemicals in your eyes'? 'Safety shoes' 'Here's your check and sorry about the blindness'.
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#4 Posted : 01 February 2008 15:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By alan brotherton I would say that in my experience and opinion, a perfect example of a "bad" risk assessment is any which refer to general safety guidance in terms of a control measure without actually specifying if that safe practice is actually in place at the time of assessment. The previous example of "PPE should be worn" is a good example. This is useless in risk assesment if stated in the context of identifying control measures in place. A "good" risk assessment should identify hazards and quantify the level of risk but in doing so it must make reference to what control measures are actually in place at the time - NOT what should be happeneing in an ideal world. As an example, the assesment may read - control measures in place: NONE EVIDENT (or detail the controls that are already in place) and any reference to required controls, general safety guidance or what should actually be happening would be made in the recommendations to reduce risk section of the assessment. I also find it useful to give risk rating values to (A) "as assessed" risk level and (B)expected level after recommended controls have been introduced. Obviously the greater the difference between A and B, the greater the risk reduction.
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#5 Posted : 01 February 2008 15:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lilian McCartney When work task risk assessments 'first' started we had difficulty trying to stop people thinking that everything could and would result in death. For example, mowing a lawn, catching toes in mower likelihood most certain and severity death! Althought likelihood was ok we thought it unlikely that someone would actually die - unless other mitigating circumstances of course. When they then assessed with the current control measures of safety footwear, the likelihood changed but the outcoem was still death. Death by paper cut etc. However, with a little training and more confidence and information this was resolved. Lilian
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#6 Posted : 01 February 2008 16:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mike Craven Types of Risk Assessments in common use, but shouldn't be: • ARCHEOLOGICAL - covered in layers of dust and dirt, haven't seen the light of day for years. Requests to consult them result in lengthy digging in remote unpopulated areas. • VIRGIN - untouched by the hand of man. Designed by a committee, typed, copied and distributed by a secretary, received and immediately filed unread by another secretary. • TIME-WORN - covered in dirty fingerprints and coffee stains, heavily creased, always incomplete and out-of-date. These will be the only procedures known to employees and probably followed by them. Mike
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