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Posted By Craig Neville
We are currently having a debate in the office about when a PTW should be used and when it is suitable to use a method statement.
We currently have demolition occurring on site. Are method statements alone suitable for this work (and all tasks it may entail) or should a PTW be required as well?
Your views, advice and directions to appropriate info would be much appreciated.
Cheers,
Craig.
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Posted By Adam Worth
Depending on task our site may use both, and a full RA!!!!
They are all different things.
I'm heading home so this is rushed but
Method statement = how to do it
Permit = alerts plant of task and ensures task controlled (isolation's other work etc)
RA - detailed assessment of risks -
Have fun - the previous thread mentioned is a good place to start.
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Posted By Emamode
Craig,
Both are entirely different. The method statement is only a description of how the task/activity would be safely carried out.
Permit to work is a system used to control high risk activities to ensure that adequate controls are in place before work is allowed commence.
In my previous company, the company policy requires that a method statement & Job Safety Analysis must be attached to the ptw for any activity defined to require a permit to work.
However, the method statement and a JSA only can be used for low risk activities. Certainly, demolition activities, are not low risk.
Cheers
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Posted By Craig Neville
David, Adam and Emamode,
Thanks for taking time out to help. All your responses strengthen my argument.
Good effort,
Craig.
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Posted By John A Wright
My understanding,
A Permit to Work is like a risk assessment, it considers risks associated with a task, but usually a PTW is for non-routine work, and aims to ensure the work place has been properly prepared and will be controlled, like a contractor going on the roof to do repairs, or a welder doing work in an area used to store flammables (where the permit would likely require removal of all the flammables and would ensure that no-one wanders into the area with a tin of solvent etc etc)
and the permit requires signatures (on the day)confirming inspection by appropriate persons with responsibility.
A Method Statement describes how one plans to do a task, with all the detail of what order things will be done and who does what. Again this will usually be for a non-routine job like those exampled above.
Such non-routine jobs do also need a properly documented Risk Assessment that will include the decisions made when considering all the risks and how they will be controlled.
A Safe System of Work is a procedure for a routine job or task where all the risks have already been assessed and the controls are already in place, and if it is documented it will describe the task from beginning to end, including preparation, how to do it, how to record it, clean-up etc etc.
John W
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