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#1 Posted : 12 February 2008 16:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mitch Has anyone got any info', SSoW, guidance etc for accessing suspended tubular heaters in a warehouse for repair and maintenance. Units are approximately 6m high and gas powered. I am after something to benchmark contractors against!
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#2 Posted : 12 February 2008 18:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By CFT Mitch What has the contractor/s proposed in terms of SSOW for said works? Perhaps we can be of more help by knowing how they wish to approach it. MEWP is almost certainly going to be the most practical and safe method, that is without seeing and knowing what the duration of works is likely to be. CFT
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#3 Posted : 13 February 2008 08:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mitch CFT Not received anything, this is a brand new facility and I am going out to tender and wanted to be pre-armed. My initial risk assessment has concluded MEWPS and as such the perimeter will be kept free of storage to facilitate reasonable access at all times. I was looking for a bit more details on the "bleeding obvious" I may have missed eg do they need to access the rear of the units if so how, I assume this meas climbing out of the MEWP. I have obtained industry standard guidance for roller shutter doors etc but cannot find anything on the heaters.
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#4 Posted : 13 February 2008 08:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis To start at the beginning though - make sure they are Corgi registered, or if you are reading this after April 2009 its possible successor body, and then worry about the means of access. MEWPS are by far the best answer and I would set out your basic requirements such as signallers, barriers, communication, no climbing out or on guardrails etc but leave the detailing to the contractor. Bob
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#5 Posted : 13 February 2008 09:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mitch Thanks Bob, As always precise and succinct. Mitch
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#6 Posted : 13 February 2008 13:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter Mitch, if this is a brand new facility,what have the Designers anticipated or assumed for maintenance access and what information is contained within your Health and Safety File for the Structure? Any prospective contractor should be directed to that same information too. CDM?
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#7 Posted : 13 February 2008 14:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mitch Ron, I wish it were that simple! Mitch
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#8 Posted : 13 February 2008 15:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis Mitch Too true - What is unusual or significant about putting gas heaters high up in a factory!! I could put forward an argument that states "As a designer I have put in floors suitable for loading up to XkN/m2 what more do I need to do". In reality very little, a competent contractor can work out a suitable method from this point. Bob
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#9 Posted : 13 February 2008 16:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mitch This is the situation, the project is/was (it's nearly complete) demolition (asbestos cement roof panels, new warehouse, refurbishment of existing workshop reroute public footpath. My employer is the Client, his mate is the PC. I was lumbered with the role of CDM Co-ordinator as part of my normal day to day responsibility is H&S Adviser (I like that title!). My job has been mopping up! In fairness the PC has an excellent attitude in addition has responded well to all advice. No injuries, accidents or near misses to date. Professionally I would like to "mop up" in the correct manner hence my plea for help with the heater scenario. The type of heaters were agreed/decided between the Client and the PC, I have now included the Client on the Designers list for the H&S file! Regards Mitch
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#10 Posted : 13 February 2008 16:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis Mitch I would shade towards the PC being the designer. However my view holds that if the floor is adequate and MEWPS can be used the designer has done all that is needed. The H&S file needs only reflect the expectation of MEWP use. The detailing I set out earlier will only come into play when the gas fitters are maintaining the heaters. They may in fact choose alloy towers for the work. It is ultimately the choice of a competent contractor. You set the framework rules they provide the detail to work by. Bob
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#11 Posted : 13 February 2008 16:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mitch Thanks Bob, I'm now working on the basis that if I get 3 competitive quotes with Method Statements I can compare and using common sense pick the most professional Mitch
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