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#1 Posted : 14 February 2008 09:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By P Workman Operative injured his back yesterday pm (Wed 13th). Received first aid, did not leave site, remained on other light duties for 2 hours. Is due to see doctor this morning (Thur 14th). Had A/L booked today (Thur 14th) & Fri 15th. Was due to work Sat 16th, but not Sun 17th. If he does not return to work next week, on which day does it become >3day?
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#2 Posted : 14 February 2008 09:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By garyh Struggling to understand your query - what is AL? Basically under RIDDOR if you are unable to do your normal job for 4 days straight it is reportable, not including the day you were injured. So it is not actually about absence, nor days you would have worked - but UNABLE to perform normal duties, on days your COULD have worked. Hope this helps.
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#3 Posted : 14 February 2008 09:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By P Workman A/L is Annual Leave
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#4 Posted : 14 February 2008 09:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Jerman I suspect that A/L = Annual Leave? The issue here is that even when on leave or normally 'rostered off' those days count in respect of RIDDOR. Where you don't have sight of the employee (ie they're not in this Sunday) there has to be a candid conversation along the lines 'If we had wanted you to come in on Sunday, could you have done?' If the IP actually canceled their football etc etc for Sunday, it's likely that they would not have been fit. If they're off on Monday too - well that's that. However, it is important to remember the spirit and intent of RIDDOR. This isn't about inspectors with a stopwatch waiting for your report to come in where the difference between reporting or not is a question of a couple of hours. People ask me all of time 'does this trigger RIDDOR?' It's more a question of "Would the HSE actually benefit from knowing about this - would it help their understanding, would it add to their figures and identify new campaigns?" Viewing RIDDOR in the terms of do we have to report or not is the real idea. Having said that I did try to report a case of genuine stress and the HSE simply would not have it at any price - go figure. If it's not on the list you can't report it? Where's the spirit and intent there then? It also depends upon your reporting picture. We report several hundred per year and occasionally I just say "no" to the type that you are describing above. If the IP came in on the Monday looking OK, I would take the decision to let that one go. That's my decision - not my advice. Chris Jerman
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#5 Posted : 14 February 2008 09:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By Heather Collins Sunday because this would be the fourth day not including the day of the accident. Annual leave, weekends, days rostered off, etc make no difference where RIDDOR is concerned. In practice, if he does not return to work Monday you must report the accident. In theory, even if he does return on Monday you should ask him if he would have been fit to work on Sunday - most people wouldn't bother to ask! Note it is not simply return to work - it is fitness for normal duties so if he returns on light duties it is still reportable.
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