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#1 Posted : 21 February 2008 09:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By lewes We have a first floor mezzaine where we store dry goods (car components in cardboard boxes) and there are currently two access stairs. We are looking to take one set out to increase the size of the ground floor and first floor space. The goods on the first floor are primarily oversized objects and they are all either in cardboard boxes or in a natural state if oversized. No gases, chemicals or highly flammable stuff. There would be a maximum of two people on the mezzanine working at any one time. There is another means of escape via someone’s office that backs onto the mezzanine but that’s also a two way exit as they can exit onto the mezzanine (max 5 people) Do we need or is it recommended to have another means of escape or have we covered it from all angles. Thanks for any input
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#2 Posted : 21 February 2008 09:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ashley Wood It depends on what you are storing under the mezzanine and also your travel distances. What size is the building? Do you have smoke detection? Sprinklers etc?
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#3 Posted : 21 February 2008 09:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By lewes Similar stuff stored down stairs, the odd battery etc Building size approx 30m x 10m made of steel cladding, travel distance 4-5 metres, fire detection present and not sure about sprinklers
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#4 Posted : 21 February 2008 10:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mitch Lewes, Sounds Ok to me, have you checked the building reg's (approved document M from memory), local planning department, they advised me on a recent project? Regards Mitch
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#5 Posted : 21 February 2008 17:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ashley Wood Lewes, sounds ok to me also. If you had no smoke detection then you may have had an issue. Am I correct in assuming that the fire exits go straight to fresh air? make sure you have got enough illumination of the stairs and escape routes with your emergency escape lighting and that there are some extinguishers to hand on the mezz.
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#6 Posted : 21 February 2008 18:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By lewes I had a word with the local fire authority this afternoon and they are kinda happy but only if we have "engineering solutions" or sufficient early warning systems in place. So got to make sure ample smoke and heat detectors on mezz and below and to make sure hazardous items are stored away from fire route etc Thanks for everyone's input
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#7 Posted : 21 February 2008 18:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martin Taylor You will need to check the guidance document Fire risk assessment - Warehouse and Factories - ISBN-13: 978 1 85112 816 7 This will tell you if travel distances are adequate and smoke alarm arrangements suitable My views would be the second escape was introduced for a reason - make sure you understand what this was before removal Also make sure that the powers that be understand that by doing this you will restrict future changes to the use of the mezzanine e.g. if they wanted to make it into an office - may seem unlikely at this time but never say never oh and don't forget to update your fire risk assessement document with your thinking in making this change. also don't forget the building regs people may eed to be involved and sanction whatever you are looking at - the local fire brigade can also offer advice. Martin
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#8 Posted : 22 February 2008 08:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mitch Martin, What takes precedent for distances the standard you quote or the building Reg's? Or are they the same? Mitch
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