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Posted By Rachael Palmer
All staff are members of a health scheme, the employer pays the basic level which enables employees to claim back £45 p.a. for eye test & contribution towards glasses.
An employee who is a "user" as defined by the DSE regs has an eye test and is prescribed varifocals. Employee pays for glasses & claims the allowance for that year of £45 to off set some of the cost of the glasses. After a while employee decides varifocals aren't suitable for used with DSE - she just can't adjust to using them when typing etc. she doesn't speak to employer to see if adjustments can be made to the workstation to see if that would help but returns to optician who states that she can have a pair of glasses made up for DSE use without further eye test being carried out.
Who pays for the new glasses? She's been told (not by me) that the cost of the glasses should come out of her annual health scheme allowance and that no further payment will be forthcoming.
I've been asked for my opinion and think there could well be union involvement before long if the issue isn't resolved one way or the other
I know what I think but would appreciate it if contributors to the forum could give their views.
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Posted By Mitch
Rachel,
Health and Safety (Display Screen Equipment) Regulations 1992
"If a user experiences visual difficulty, which might reasonably result from display screen work, an appropriate test must be provided if requested. Where any tests show that corrective appliances (usually spectacles) are required these must be provided by the employer. The cost of eyesight tests must be borne by the employer."
Regards
Mitch
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Posted By LMR
if the varifocals are the first pair of varifocals that this person has tried instructions should have been given by the optician on how to take them back and get allowances back from them to change the spectacles to either single vision or bi-focals. It is a known problem changing to varifocals and all opticians have a process to deal with this.
Discover if there are any additional costs involved and go from there. As a result of this we now have a 'if they are your first pair of varifocals we do not pay for them we will provide spectacles for use at work'.
Hope this helps.
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Posted By Paul Duell
Two thoughts:
1) If the lady had gone to a reputable optician, they'd have given her a "try before you buy" option if it was her first pair of varifocals. D&A certainly do this - they're more expensive than some, but they're worth it for the guarantees they give.
2) As has been said, the employer is liable for the costs of DSE corrective lenses. You've provided that and fulfilled that obligation. The fact that what was provided is unsuitable (unfit for purpose, effectively) is the optician's fault, not the company's.
If the union are yelling that loud, it might just be worth making a one-off payment in this case, followed by clarifying your policy to say that you'll only fund single-vision glasses intended for DSE work, which is all you're required to do.
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Posted By Tabs
I believe you need to pay for the replacement glasses.
It is then your choice whether you introduce a policy regarding varifocals, having had your fingers burnt. You may want to restrict DSE glasses to plain single-use glasses.
But in the scheme of things, it is unlikely to break you if it is restricted to genuine cases.
Chances are that the productivity lost has already exceeded the cost of the next pair ;-)
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Posted By Jem
In my experience, varifocals are not usually prescribed for DSE. A DSE prescription will be a short focus correction.
One of the high street opticians offer a good corporate deal where the cost of a standard pair of DSE corrective glasses are within the price of the test.
Jem
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Posted By Pete Longworth
The varifocals aren't suitable for DSE use but presumably will be suitable for other aspects of the employee's life. Equally the employee presumably won't be throwing them away so in effect has a subsidised pair of spectacles for personal use or maybe I'm being too presumptive here. Maybe the employee can re-imburse you for the varifocals if they are going to continue to be used for everyday matters and then you can subsidise a pair of single vision DSE specs.
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Posted By holmezy
Rachael
I'm with the others on this one. I don't think varifocals prescribed, nor are usually they suitable for DSE work. I think that you need to pay for a pair of specs specifically for DSE use, which as a previous poster has said, will be for a specific distance.
I would also have a slight issue with the Company expecting employees to aquire DSE specs through the health insurance scheme. Commendable that it is that the company contributes for the employee, I don't think its purpose is for the provision of DSE specs, or for that matter, prescription safety specs. What would happen if the employee had bought fancy specs for normal wear, had the £45 contribution from the insurance, then discovered that they need DSE specs. Who pays?.... the Company should. I think you need to seperate the 2 issues, keep the health contributions going for the benefit of ALL employees, but also make provision for items that individuals may require and that you have to supply, ie DSE specs.
Good luck getting that one past your boss!!
Holmezy
looking forward to a beer already....
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Posted By Pete48
After years of trying to "support" individual choice, I have concluded that the best way to think of corrective spectacles for DSE use is to treat them just like any other piece of PPE. Paid for by the company, owned by the company and used by the employee for work. Has to be fit for purpose and if it can be fashionable etc then OK but if not...
Of course we need to stay aware and manage specific medical or special needs but as a general rule it works well.
Buy in cost is a decision for each company and some may "allow" more and others the bare minimum.Replaced at no cost to the employee as required, subject to all the usual controls of PPE. Just like boots, gloves, hi-vis vests etc.
I have worked in companies where employees are not allowed to take their DSE glasses home at night! A bit Draconian for me but acceptable to some.
Any system that compromises that approach is likely to lead to complication sooner or later as we see, yet again, in this case.
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