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Posted By Ben.A
Hi,
I have been asked by a colleague if i have any details of companies in kent which would be able to carry out a type 3 asbestos survey.
Any advice or points of contact would be appreciated
Regards
Ben
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Posted By GeoffB4
I wouldn't want to be negative Ben but in my experience a type 3 survey just isn't worth doing.
I'm happy to send you a copy of one we've seen if you wish, to show what I mean.
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Posted By db
A type 3 survey will be required where refurbishment or demolition is planned - or any work which likely to damage, remove or reveal areas of the building which may contain asbestos.
If you just wish to comply with the reg 4 duty to manage then you don't necessarily need it.
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Posted By CFT
http://www.hse.gov.uk/as...ampaign/duty.htm#surveys
Tells you about the surveys.
If you contact me directly I am happy to recommend a company that will offer you assistance, advice and produce either a type 2 or 3 survey depending on what your reasons and requirements are.
CFT
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Posted By GeoffB4
My mistake, I got my 1s and 3s mixed up - and that was without a drink! Sorry.
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Posted By Stuart
Ben
I know of a company called STATS who are currently working on the Isle of Grain and they can conduct surveys and also ALLTASK are down that area.
Stu
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Posted By Josh Scogin
STATS are a good company, based in St Albans though mind.
Redhill are based in Surrey from what i remember, look them up if you can.
It is important to explain what you are wanting to achieve with your survey, as said above if its just to comply with the "duty to manage" then a type 2 survey is what you should go for. Any refurb of demolition work would need a type 3 survey of that particular area ( or whole building etc )
regards
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Posted By Dave Wilson
If you go to the UKAS www you can get a list of ALL currently UKAS accredited Asbestos Surveying companies.
It is always a good idea to use a UKAS accredited company it can give you a good pointer into the competencies of the company as if they are NOT UKAS accredited then the question is why have they not bothered?
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Posted By GeoffB4
A couple of reasons Dave, the first one is cost, secondly if they have enough work why bother, third for the cost involved will it bring in extra work etc etc.
It's not always a case of he/she/they haven't got something because he/she/they are incompetent, inexperienced, thick ....
Think of a glass being half full and you'll see the light shining on it!!
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Posted By Adrian Watson
Dave,
Geoff is right; the primary reason is cost. The secondary reason is that UKAS is not very good (my opinion is that it is useless) at assuring competence in surveying. It has gone from an area it is very good at (lab methods; where there is little or no subjectivity) to something it is not good at (surveying; where there is a lot of subjectivity).
Regards Adrian Watson
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Posted By Dave Wilson
Guys I do take all your points and they ARE valid that said ANYONE can call themselves an 'Asbestos Surveyor' and set themselves up tomorrow!
As a client how are you going to satisfy yourself that who you appoint have at least some level of competency, I know ABICS and NIACS are out there for the smaller companies / one man bands.
As you put it relating to cost, "didn't do reasonable checks to ensure I got a proper survey done so exposed people to asbestos, because the surveyor couldn't be bothered because it cost money!" Does this not smack of SFAIRP!
UKAS / ABICS / NIACS at least give some comfort to clients that the Asbestos Surveyors they are contracting are doing something, its better than nothing.
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