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#1 Posted : 12 March 2008 10:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By William Wright Dear All, my company has recently made it compulsory to wear ear defenders, whilst on the shop floor, They have issued all employees with the same type of ear defenders. However the Engineering staff have reported that they have difficulties in communicating with stall and colleagues whilst trying to carry out thier duties. What worries me even more is that they have reported that this is effecting safety as many of the tasks they carryout require clear and precise verbal instructios. Has anyone any experience of this and how to engineer a way around this? ie specialist ear defenders etc.
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#2 Posted : 12 March 2008 10:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By mike morland William You are on the right track - specialist ear defenders. As you are aware, any PPE provided must be 'fit for purpose' and compatible and your engineers have highlighted a communication problem. There are defenders on the market with built in headsets that allow for exactly this problem. Contact your provider or email me for further details if you wish.
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#3 Posted : 12 March 2008 10:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter William Do you have any problems with employees not wearing the protection? Employees should be given a choice as this should improve the wearing of it. Paul
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#4 Posted : 12 March 2008 10:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tabs Your engineers could also use enclosures (such as offices and meeting rooms) to deliver precise instructions. If the noise levels are high enough to warrant ear protection, one has to question whether their instructions were being heard in the first place :-) I must confess to displacing the ear cup of my defenders when I wanted to listen to someone ... oops (don't do it now I'm in Safety though). Bad old days.
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#5 Posted : 12 March 2008 10:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By John J The trick is not to overprotect. Your ear defenders should offer a suitable level of protection but may not require the maximum level available on the market. Engineering methods are always preferred but if this is not practicable they may as well get used to improving none verbal techniques as they could need them when their older, John
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#6 Posted : 12 March 2008 11:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Hughes Some Ear defenders are better with speech than others. Some are specifically designed to let sound at the vocal range through and keep out other frequencies, others have noise cancelling technology that has the same effect - you don't have to go straight to expensive communication devices in all cases... I'd suggest getting the manufacturers representatives to to come round and make recommendations based on your specific requirements and then trial the models they suggest. Don't just contact one manufacturer, invite them all in and try to find a solution that suits.
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#7 Posted : 12 March 2008 11:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Colin Reeves There is an alternative that may suit. Some time ago I was issued with earplugs which were specifically moulded on an individual basis, these were highly effective at reducing general noise levels but did allow speach frequencies to be attenuated less. I am aware of hygiene concerns with earplugs - these being moulded to a specific ear did not appear to have the same problems. They were also comfortable enough to wear continuously. However, it is a few years ago and I have slept since then, cannot recall the manufacturer. Colin
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#8 Posted : 12 March 2008 12:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mitch As John has pointed out engineering solutions are the best approach, there are specialist companies out there that will survey your site, machinery etc and it might not be as expensive as you think!
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#9 Posted : 12 March 2008 13:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By James K In response to Colin's posting. We have recently introduced personalised ear protectors that are quantifiable. The individual persons moulded protectors are fitted with filters that allow for the individuals hearing level against the surrounding noise levels. In Ireland the compay is Audio Labs in Dublin and the name of the ear protector is called Sonamax. Maybe Sonamax have a supplier in the UK ? These are not cheap but considering the possible cost of a court case they are reasonable enough,costing approximately €170 per person. Jim
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#10 Posted : 12 March 2008 16:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By N.I William As the previous response said Sonomax are ideal for use in noisy environments and the people wearing them can also hear each other without having to shout. I have contact details for someone in the UK who comes to site and take the personal measurements the cost is approx £70 per person. Feel free to contact me for further details. Nick.
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#11 Posted : 13 March 2008 13:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By Sarah Haskins I work as an Audiometrician and come across this problem very often. There are probaly a few things to bear in mind. 1) A reluctance to the new policy 2) Over protection- If in doubt use this link to make sure the attenuation is correct. http://www.hse.gov.uk/noise/hearingcalc.xls 3) Make sure a wide range of hearing protection is avaiable, plugs, corded, banded, silcone, foam and ear muff etc etc. Custon made earplugs can as a long term investment be cost effective and as the ear only has slight changes in shape every 6-7 years these will last. Noise reducing eafmuffs are avaible they will cut out any noise above generally 83dB, so conversation can continue easiy, they do have a cost implication if they are needed for a large number of employees. Regards Sarah
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