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#1 Posted : 14 March 2008 14:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Michael Kent
Hi

I have newly registered here because I have a specific issue I can't get to the bottom of.

If we lose power to the site the emergency lights come on (internal battery type). What level of occupation is allowed during this time, assuming the fire system is still functional, and what level of occupation is allowed if the power outage is extended and the emergency lights fail?
Am I correct in thinking that without emergency lighting only maintenance personnel involved in the restoration should be in the building?

Thanks for any help offered with this.
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#2 Posted : 14 March 2008 14:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By Renny Thomson
The emergency lighting is usually provided to illuminate the escape route from the building, not to enable working. However, if there is adequate natual light to allow work to continue work, then what is your problem?
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#3 Posted : 14 March 2008 14:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Renny Thomson
Sorry, misread your query. If all lighting, including the emergency system has failed, and there is inadequate light to continue work, then get portable lighting in for the maintenance crews. Note that the emergency lighting will only last for a relatively short period, possibly as short as 1 hour, max 3 hours.
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#4 Posted : 14 March 2008 14:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Michael Kent
Thanks for the quick response Renny. The building operates H24 and work at desks could continue using separately powered task lighting. We are looking at possible scenarios and I am trying to get an understanding of the legislative boundaries before we go too far down the road of decision making.

I guess the heart of my question is whether it is permissible under law for a level of normal occupation to continue once the emergency lights have discharged and gone out.
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#5 Posted : 14 March 2008 16:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jay Joshi
It is a higher risk maintaining occupation when the fire detection system that is on battery back-up also fails, despite the low probability of an event where there is a fire during a power failure(the opposite is very much possible)

Whereas there may be options in provision of workstation lighting--what type of work are you considersin--I presume it is office based work using laptops??

We faced a similar situation and based on the business priorities, came to a decision to install a generator that will provide power to one of the bildings on our site so that its critical systems are maintained.
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#6 Posted : 14 March 2008 16:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By William R Smith
Remember emergency lighting is just that "emergency lighting" and should only give adequate lighting to escape. Think of the consequences if someone tripped whilst working.
If there is sufficient natural lighting then that is a different matter.
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#7 Posted : 14 March 2008 16:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Wright
if there is a power outage at our place we evacuate the everyone to a safe light place such as our canteen.
even with the emergency lighting on it is still dark and we must remember that there is a higher risk of an accident occuring if you have people wandering around a darkened building or if people visit the loo which will probably have no windows to let light in.
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#8 Posted : 14 March 2008 16:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert.
Jay
Thats all very well but the installation of a suitably rated generator not to mention the auto changeover system is definately not a cheap option for most.
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#9 Posted : 14 March 2008 16:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By Michael Kent
Thanks all.

This is at a facility with multiple redundant supplies and generators. What we are looking at is what can be done if the unthinkable happens. It seems that it is easier to keep a minimum level of equipment on line than it is to keep the building legally habitable.

Regards

Michael
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#10 Posted : 14 March 2008 17:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mike Craven
Looking at some of the responses, I think we need to be clear about what we mean by "emergency lighting". What many of us (myself included) often refer to as "emergency lighting" should in fact be correctly termed "escape lighting" - if the building/room was in darkness or filling with smoke due to fire and/or loss of power, this lighting would probably just be enough to allow people to follow a lit escape route to a place of safety.

"Emergency lighting" might be something completely different. When I was H&S Manager at a College of Further College & Higher Education, we had an "emergency lighting" system in one of the areas - I think it was something to do with examinations. The situation was that, as far as was humanly possible, that area of the college had to continue to function even if the rest of the world had suffered a power cut!!

The "emergency lighting" system came on if the main electrical supply failed, and it provided enough light for people to continue to work, albeit for a limited amount of time whilst the main power supply was not available. The "emergency lighting" might not have been anywhere near as good as the normal lighting, but it was a lot better than "escape lighting"

In terms of who should continue to work in the event of emergency lighting coming-on, perhaps this should be the subject of a risk assessment, taking into consideration reasons for the failure of the main supply, length of time that the back-up system will last, continued availability of a fire detection and warning system, tasks being undertaken, access to other required facilities, etc.

Mike
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