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#1 Posted : 01 April 2008 15:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By garyh I believe that the UK was the first country in the world to introduce legislation on H&S (Health & Morals Of Apprentices Act 1802). Is this the case? Does anyone have any info they can share with me on the international history of stealth and hasty legislation? Many thanks.
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#2 Posted : 01 April 2008 15:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By willhiem Sorry to disappoint but from what i recall, Occupational health measures have been in use since long before then, i think it was an italian guy if i remember correctly (This takes me back to my history of occ health lectures, i'll have to wikipedia him, my notes are long gone) think it was about the 1500's!!
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#3 Posted : 01 April 2008 15:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By water67. Hi, not sure about the first actual act by a government re H&S, But there is apparently evidence that H&S was in practice as early as the Greek and egyptian times... crude breathing masks were made to protect miners. Not sure where you could check all this out. But i would hope IOSH have some info on this. Cheers.
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#4 Posted : 01 April 2008 15:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By peter gotch Gary. Goes much further back. Deuteronomy 22.8 When you build a new house, then you shall make a parapet for your roof, that you may not bring guilt of bloodshed on your household if anyone falls from it Regards, Peter
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#5 Posted : 01 April 2008 16:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By CFT Gary Seeing you mention that particular Act and indeed our own President Ray Hurst doing the same in the front cover of this months SHP, made me recall two particular sections from many; 'They are to be instructed every working day during the first four years of apprenticeship in reading, writing and arithmetic,' and, 'Male and female apprentices are to be provided with separate sleeping apartments, and not more than two to sleep in one bed.' 1339 statute mentions; 'the King was to keep his estate safe' CFT
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#6 Posted : 01 April 2008 16:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter I think Wilhiem was referring to Ramazzini. Paul
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#7 Posted : 01 April 2008 16:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Neil Budworth ‘If a builder constructs a house for a man but does not make his work strong with the result that the house ... collapses and so causes the death of the owner ... the builder shall be put to death’ Hamorabi, Emperor of Babylon, c 1750 BC
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#8 Posted : 01 April 2008 16:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tabs 1750 BC ?!? Is that "Before Clarkson" ?
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#9 Posted : 01 April 2008 16:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis Neil Thats building regs not H&S:-) CFT Don't forget the hour off on a Sunday for church, Protestant only though!! There was an awful lot of legislation concerning mining around the 14-17th centuries but it seems to have been about restricting the right to move masters though, ie employer. Deutronomy certainly is a legal code though but who is going to date it? I think the current span for production is around 1000 years. Bob
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#10 Posted : 01 April 2008 17:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lisa Fowlie Hammurabi expanded.. .. The Code of Laws of Hammurabi 1792-1750 B.C (Babylonian King who set down first written code of laws) “ If a builder build a house for some one, and does not construct it properly, and the house which he built fall in and kill its owner, then that builder shall be put to death” [Law 229] “If it kill the son of the owner the son of that builder shall be put to death“ [Law 230] If it kill a slave of the owner, then he shall pay slave for slave to the owner of the house [Law 231] “If it ruin goods, he shall make compensation for all that has been ruined, and inasmuch as he did not construct properly this house which he built and it fell, he shall re-erect the house from his own means” [Law 232] Also; Deuteronomy Chapter 22: 8 – commonly attributed to Moses, 5th book of the Torah (Jewish law book / the old testament) circa 450 B.C (Ezra) “When you build a new house, you shall make a parapet for your roof; otherwise you may have a blood-guilt on your house, if any one should fall from it” Enjoy the history lesson!! Lisa
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#11 Posted : 01 April 2008 17:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By peter gotch Reference Water's response, google search for Asbestos and Pliny finds lots of links to demonstrate that the Ancient Greeks and Romans recognised that asbestos not good for you. e.g. http://www.legal-mesothe....com/whatisasbestos.html Regards, Peter
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#12 Posted : 02 April 2008 08:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By garyh Thanks for the responses everybody. However, like when you are doing NEBOSH examns, read the question carefully - it was about LEGISLATION. Maybe I should have said, legislation as we understand it. I think I am right in saying that the UK introduced the first H&S "legislation".
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#13 Posted : 02 April 2008 13:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis garyh Unfortunately legislation = legal codes = any of the matters posted. It is simply that we use different terminology. If you refer to UK legislation then yes HAMoAB was probably the first but other legal codes as you can see also recognised certain matters. We are not as far advanced as we think. Bob
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#14 Posted : 03 April 2008 15:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By water67. Is not your building kills me the state will kill you.."legislation"
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#15 Posted : 03 April 2008 15:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By MP Phew - this is becoming a thread for Melvyn Bragg
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#16 Posted : 03 April 2008 15:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By John A Wright Interesting this one from earlier posting: >>If it kill a slave of the owner, then he shall pay slave for slave to the owner of the house [Law 231] So another slave was not put to death, clearly their value was recognised - skilled/trained employee!
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