Posted By Peter Taylor14 You`d be 1 employee less

Posted By Colin Reeves Or build an elevated walkway (bridge) from one part of your site to the other, remove the risk altogether. Colin

Posted By Peter Taylor14 Just think reasonably practical, if LA wont allow zebra they certainly wont allow elevated walk way. How many accidents near missess have there been???

Posted By LJ Gra, We are talking about adults crossing roads safely, during the course of my working day I have to walk from building to building for meetings/deliver training etc, this entails crossing several busy roads, there are safe crossing points on most of the roads but not all- so on occassions i have to use the green cross code. If you are asking persons to carry items/materials across the road then you may have a problem, if not then I can not see that you have a problem. LJ

Posted By Fornhelper I feel this would be classed as a 'risk associated with everyday life' and as a previous poster has intimated, not one associated directly with a 'work activity'. If the local authority do not deem it necessary for a pedestrian crossing to be installed then I am sure they have looked at a number of factors surrounding the issue and essentially 'risk assessed' it for you. We also have a busy dual carriageway outside our workplace however there is a safe crossing point 200 yards up the road. Is there a safe place to cross nearby? If so instruct staff they must use the safe crossing point....might be an inconvenience but so what....if not then the 'Green Cross Code' is the way to go. FH

Posted By ClaireL Peter, Your 1st unexpected response was definately the best. Made me giggle in times when there's not always much to giggle at. Star man! PS. Haven't got any useful advice to add to the post, sorry.

Posted By Pete48 Would anyone care to explain or identify the difference in this scenario and one in which I, as an employee, work between 6 different locations and regularly walk, drive, travel on an omnibus or train etc in order to reach my different "places of work"? I am having great difficulty in understanding some of the advice given so far. Safely crossing a public highway is a life skill is it not? Providing and maintaining a safe highway for all users is a local authority responsibility and not an employers, is it not? Driving safely at all times is an individual duty, is it not? Acting reasonably is an individual responsibility, is it not? If I am knocked over by a vehicle whilst crossing the road on my way to another factory is this an accident at work or a road traffic accident? From whom would I be able seek redress? Could my employer really be accused of failing to protect my H&S in such circumstances? (case history required please) Perhaps these were the real questions in this thread. Any legal minds care to elucidate?

Posted By I. M. Twining Pete48, the answer to your question is not an easy one and that is why there is so much discussion and how this should be treated. If you were injured between the various places you work then the HSE would look at the circumstances and make their decision based on what it was you were doing and how busy they are at that time. Cop out answer I know but bear with me. My company has had the misfortune to have an employee seriously injured whilst working on the motorway (highway maintenance). He was hit by a passing wagon who did not even realise he had done it. The Operative in question had just parked on the hardshoulder and got out of the vehicle to put traffic management in place. Simple one for the HSE to decide you would think as he was at his place of work carrying out his job. Not according to the HSE. He was on the motorway and they deemed it to be an RTA not a workplace accident. In another incident they decided to investigate an incident where one of our Operatives was injured whilst crossing the road to get his dinner. It didn't result in a prosecution or anything but was something we could well have done without. Their reason for investigating it was that he was crossing during work time and we as a company had a duty of care and should have looked after his welfare. Hence the reason for suggesting caution and keeping records of what has been done. Nothing is black and white as far as the HSE are concerned. Common sense and life skills are all well and good until somebody starts to question why you didn't act a certain way. Common sense dictates you don't put yourself in the way of having a accident but people do and get paid out day in day out, whether they were at fault or not.

Posted By Gra Clarke Hi Guys, Thanks for your replies, very interesting and some good avenues for further exploration but I am still no further down the road to a solution. I have not presented my views to Management yet but hayho thats life. Graham