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#1 Posted : 04 April 2008 09:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By willhiem what is the deal with this?? i read recently you have to be CMIOSH, have to have completed professional training (what or how much or this do you need) and have 2 years work experience (how do you get CMIOSH without having 2 years experience!!). just wondering what the whole benefits of this are and where or when you'd require it! oh and will this result in having to use A3 sheets of paper for writing letters due to the massive amounts of letters after peoples names (anyone who has it will no doubt love throwin it on to their already extended signature!) thanking you, Willhiem, Cert., Dip, BSc., 3 rabbits, MSc, CMIOSH, EurOSHM (above is not strictly true, i only have 2 rabbits)
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#2 Posted : 04 April 2008 09:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mitch Is that William?
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#3 Posted : 04 April 2008 09:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By willhiem i honestly have no idea who william is, in fairness maybe a few years ago i might have done it but that was back in the day!! but thatnks for highlighting how mature and unfun i've become!!
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#4 Posted : 04 April 2008 10:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By CFT Willhiem This was publicised a couple of years ago and then I note that a question was raised on the forums in early 2007 to ask if it had been settled; there were no responses so one assumes that it is still not settled. I suppose unless you need to work throughout mainland Europe it is unlikely that one will need to add the title to an ever growing list. Our company have decided after getting larger business cards that everyone will be identified by name only (not even a title) and letters are now not permitted to be used for fear of intimidating a person or persons we are handing them out to!!Yeh right. Chazza BSc (hons) dip RSA grad IOSH MIIRSM NVQ 5 OCR FIBM and no rabbits just two dogs.
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#5 Posted : 04 April 2008 10:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Hazel Harvey Willhiem, You just have to be CMIOSH, as you correctly state you can't be this without at least 2 years. Also this is a prenominal - so you would be EurOSHM Willhiem. This designation is really for those people who work in several European countries. If you only work in the UK or Ireland where Chartered status is recognised you probably won't need this. Hazel Harvey Professional Affairs Director
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#6 Posted : 04 April 2008 10:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By willhiem Excellent, thank you Hazel. It is a bit odd though, I guess, I just don’t see the point of it, if you have to be CMIOSH to gain accreditation and the other parts are contained within CMIOSH is it not the same thing just different letters! I just read somewhere that EurOSHM is due out towards the end of the year. So you don’t get anything out of it, its just a license to practice kind of thing, which you don’t really need either!! I agree with the whole not putting letters after your name (or before it in this case), unless you are actually involved in education, and people may want to see what you've studied etc. Other than that though I agree it does intimidate and it really only sets you up for a fall! Its almost become a competition, people stick in anything. On another note I wonder will the EU bring out a similar pronominal for those of us involved in ‘amateur and professional racing of kestrels’ to read EurAPRK! Apologies, my brain is fried today; it’s been a long week.
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#7 Posted : 04 April 2008 10:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter Taylor14 my dogs are bigger than your dogs
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#8 Posted : 04 April 2008 12:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Glyn Atkinson Seeing as it's Friday, may I point out that my significant other half would like me to put "PRAT" behind my other letters, as she says that my common sense head stays at work most weekends ! I call it selective hearing, ..... and it works a treat !
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#9 Posted : 04 April 2008 14:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By Hazel Harvey Willhiem, The thing to remember about the EurOSHM is that it a pan-European qualification. Whilst in the UK and Ireland where we already have a structure and designations that are known, for other European countries this is not the case and they do have to demonstrate that they have similar levels of education and training to gain the designation. So for IOSH Chartered Members and Fellows, EurOSHM is an extra registration for other EU colleagues this might not be the case and as I said previously it is a voluntary registration if you feel any need for it. It is expected that it will come into opertation later this year and will be operated via a company in Switzerland although it will web-registration. Hazel Harvey
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#10 Posted : 04 April 2008 14:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By willhiem Hazel, Thanks for your responses, it took a while but I figured it out, it now makes much more sense - Its being set up by a breakaway faction of IOSH, the self styled 'REAL IOSH' or the 'I cant believe its not IOSH'!! No, all joking aside, with your information and their web page i seem to have a grasp on it now, its basically combining all the relevant safety organisations and then acting as a big brother to their activities (i seem to be finding all this hard to take in, apologies). Anyway the leaflet on the site explains it best. I also notice you guys are involved with it, so best of luck with it, more busy times ahead. Other than that i think i have all i need to know. Thanks again.
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