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Carriage of Dangerous Goods and Use of Transportable Pressure Equipment Regulations 2004
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#1 Posted : 07 April 2008 11:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gary Malone Advice or guidance would be appreciated. A demolition company that is licensed for asbestos removal, removes sealed skips containing asbestos from site either to transfer station awaiting transfer to landfill or direct subject to notification and availability of slot at landfill. Do drivers require to be ADR trained??
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#2 Posted : 07 April 2008 12:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By MAK I would say yes. if the lorry is in a collision the danger would be proven.
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#3 Posted : 07 April 2008 13:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gary Malone MAK, My belief, however having spoken to 2 training providers they inform me that this is not the case, yet looking at the regs white (2590), blue and brown (2212) asbestos are classified under the regulations, then reading the exemptions they are again classified, but not giving a minimum load or frequency. Having read the Carriage of Dangerous Goods Manual Published & Issue Date October 2007, again this seems that asbestos is however this is open for consultation. At this moment I am unable to provide a definitive answer. The company in question believes there is an exemption however is unaware of where this information came from. SEPA are unable to answer the question having spoken to them.
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#4 Posted : 07 April 2008 13:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merlin Asbestos which is immersed or fixed in a natural or artificial binder (such as cement, plastics, asphalt, resins or mineral ore) in such a way that no escape of hazardous quantities of respirable asbestos fibres can occur during carriage is not subject to the requirements of ADR. Manufactured articles containing asbestos and not meeting this provision are nevertheless not subject to the requirements of ADR when packed so that no escape of hazardous quantities of respirable asbestos fibres can occur during carriage. Blue Asbestos –un 2213 pg II Brown Asbestos –un 2212 pg II White Asbestos - un 2590 pg III So I would say yes Drivers of vehicles carrying dangerous goods shall hold a certificate issued by the competent authority or by any organization recognized by that authority stating that they have participated in a training course and passed an examination on the particular requirements that have to be met during carriage of dangerous goods.
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#5 Posted : 07 April 2008 13:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merlin Did not finish-- dependent on how it’s carried and controlled otherwise No,
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#6 Posted : 07 April 2008 14:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gary Malone Merlin, Thank you, all asbestos is transported being double bagged. Cement Sheets are encapsulated in a polythene liner. However my belief is that we cannot display driver competence at this moment without specialist training.
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#7 Posted : 07 April 2008 16:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By MP If the items being carried have a UN number and the quantity being is carried is over the threshold limit (1000 kg in this case) then yes, the driver needs his ADR licence, the vehicle must be placarded, etc., etc. So, carry less than this and the driver just needs to have an awareness of the hazards of the goods and know what to do in an emergency. This can be done with in-house training
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#8 Posted : 07 April 2008 17:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Wilson OK as a DGSA and HS&E for a licensed contractor here goes. DGR/ADR only applies to 'FIBROUS ASBESTOS'as SP 168 applies. SO no ADR/CDG for carriage of Cement, artex, floor tiles etc as this is bonded. ADR/DGR only kicks in as LQ (TC II or III) applies so can carry up to 333kg of Fibrous Blue / Brown or up to 1000kg of Fibrous White without ADR/CDG. Above this limit then it applies in its totality, eg Tremcard, instructions in writing, Emergency equipment, driver training etc. Hope that helps
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#9 Posted : 07 April 2008 17:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Wilson PS its CDG 2007 now
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#10 Posted : 07 April 2008 19:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gary Malone Dave, Thank you very much!!!
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#11 Posted : 07 April 2008 19:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gary Malone MP, I hadnt noticed your reply, I have now, Thank You all for replying and your information.
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