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Posted By steven n
The sun is out and the men are revolting.
I am meeting a lot of resistance in my insistance that the lads on the shop floor wear overalls or two-piece at all times (some have even threatened to leave if I continue to enforce)
They are saying it will be too uncomfortable over the summer months something I don't agree with (I am from a petro chem background so it was a case of like it or lump it)
Does anyone know of a practical compromise
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Posted By garyh
Show them the risk assessment which shows them why they have to wear PPE (overalls). Better still, involve them in producing / reviewing it.
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Posted By Mitch
Steve,
What duties do the people carry out on the shopfloor, you say petro chemical, but specifically what?
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Posted By steven n
I used to work on petro-chem sites but moved into manufacturing.
The lads are using solvents, paints and dust etc. they don't need overalls for all their duties as per RA, but it is the case where the tasks where they do need them they aren't bothering so I feel wearing at all times is the only option but this is causing conflict.
I have only been here a couple of months and am being cast as the villain when I am really a nice guy with their best intersts at heart so any compromise ie) lightweight overalls would be a step in the right direction
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Posted By Mitch
Steve,
The must be some form of ventilation in the workshops can this not be used for cooling the work area. What about disposable overalls, the light white type I use in my garage (what a way to relax at the weekend) or alternatively depending on the exact tasks being carried out localised protection long gauntlets, aprons etc?
Mitch
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter
Steve
The alternatives are, you say, wear the overalls when they are necessary or wear them all the time; give the blokes the choice and leave them in no doubt that the disciplinary route awaits if they don't comply.
Paul
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Posted By PL
If there's a significant risk, write it into the risk assessment.
If not, then there's no requirement for them to wear them. Best practice for one industry may well be overkill for another.
However, I work in a similar role to yourself, we persuaded the workforce by showing them an increase in the accident stats on our plant of dermatitis cases and some pics of the results.
While we still get grumbles, everyone knows why we do it. We're currently moving towards goggles as mandatory when handling liquids too. Similar reasons, and increase in accidents and an increase in severity taking into account newly developed products.
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Posted By steven n
I approached the workshop foreman this morning in an attempt to resolve the matter by mutual agreement, he just looked straight through me turned his back and walked away!(I had been warned about him, he has been with the firm since day one and all the managers are scared of him!)
It looks like I am going to make enemies before this matter is resolved.
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Posted By Mitch
Steven,
Speak to his line manager and HR (if you have HR)
Best of luck, keep us informed.
Mitch
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Posted By Eric Taylor
Discuss it with your HR and get appropriate steps put in place. After a few warnings, then sending them home to tell the "real boss" that they are not getting paid for the next couple of days because they are too hot and don't want to wear overalls should sort them out. Imagine explaining that your your significant other and see the sympathy you get.
As for the grumpy supervisor, ask him how he thinks he would fare in court should it come to it. He will have a responsibility for ensuring his men work safely. If they don't.............etc, etc,
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Posted By steven n
I am afraid it is a case of the tail wagging the dog here, I have advised the workshop manager of the need to ensure the lads wear the correct PPE as stated in the RA but he is reluctant to enforce for the fear of upsetting the workers. I will have to take things higher up I wont be popular but hey thats the path we have chose
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Posted By Mitch
Steven,
Just a quick one before you embark, have you discussed the RA and it's conclusions with the employees?
Mitch
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Posted By steven n
I have just brought the matter to a head with the workshop foreman pointing out exactly why control measures are needed and when. I have agreed that when performing certain tasks they are ok not to wear ovies but I have made it clear that if they don't play ball then overalls will be worn at all times he was okay with this, then we chatted about last nights game!!nothing like grabbing the bull by the horns to get things sorted.(come on you reds 6 times in Moscow!)
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