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Posted By Martin Taylor
A colleague has just returned from a machine trials at a German machinery supplier with concerns about guarding to conveyor elements of the machines (carrying chipboard panels between saw and drill stations).
I have asked for a copy of the CE certificate first to check what EN standards have been used but what EN standards should we be looking for? Are there any specific to conveyors and in running nips?
many thanks
Martin
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Posted By Glyn Atkinson
I just Googled up BS EN 618 and 620, (also 619 for the food industry.)
With the cross referencing available on both pages, there should be enough for you to start to research further into your particular type of machinery layout and design.
Hope this info is of help.
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Posted By Mitch
Martin,
Ask the manufacturer for a copy of the RA thay carried out as part of their CE marking process this should refer, along with the cert', all the standards considered.
Mitch
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Posted By Martin Taylor
thanks for the responses to this everybody
I now have the CE certificate but it doesn't reference EN standards - instead it references directives which apparently references standards (but doesn't say which standards)
Where can I find guidance on what a CE certificate should have included so I can check if this one conforms?
Martin
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Posted By Pete48
Mrtin try searching the good ol interweb on "conformance ce basics". You may find some helpful stuff there.
Good luck! There is a lot of it
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Posted By Mitch Martin, Save yourself some time and contact the Conveyor Equipment Manufacturers Association at http://www.cemanet.org/Mitch
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Posted By garyh
An acquaintance of mine is an HSE inspector, specialising in machinery guards. The advice he always gives is that you as the OPERATOR of the machine must assess the risks (and if it is CE marked - so what!) The RA should cover mechanical and non mechanical areas.
Basically, if you can harm yourself on the machines moving parts, they should have a guard of some sorts.
This is a complex area - anthropomorphic considerations come in - you may need specialist advice.
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
Guarding to conveyors can be a moot point. Most manufacturers recognise that they are simply part of an array of machines being brought together and thus the user will need to assess the risks and guard as necessary.
Many CE marked machines fall into this category hence the apparent lack of some obvious guards.
Bob
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Posted By Martin Taylor
Thanks for the responses everybody - I think that the aspect of conveyors being the 'forgotten link' may well be the case here.
Our team are returning to the manufacturer next week and your views have been helpful in determining their approach.
I would still like to see a definition of what makes a CE certificate valid - what should be on it?
Anybody with a web address to cover this please let me know.
thanks
Martin
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Posted By Peter How Matrin A CE mark is part of the Certificate of Conformity that the product is produced to Comply with the various EC Directives http://europa.eu/scadplus/leg/en/s02308.htm and thus it may be (free) traded within the EU. How a piece of equipment can be demonstrated to comply with a particular directive is by the declaration of what EN standards were used in its design and build. It is certainly NOT a safety quality mark! You have to know or take advice on what ENs are relevent. {I work in Dsear /Atex arena and it is a moving nightmare] Unfortunatly of course the HSE have their own view of safety (vs Italians / spanish / greek...)and you have to do your PUWER RA all over again when you put it into service. heyho - Regards Peter
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