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#1 Posted : 07 May 2008 15:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By John A Wright
At a customer, in an initial PUWER assessment of a 'home-made' cutting machine, I'm going to request the engineers improve the guarding.

The machine traverses a 50%-guarded 30cm toothed circular blade across a table, cutting rigid plastic sheet.

The operator has fixed guarding in front of him, uses two-handed controls, so he can't get near the blade when it's rotating.

In it's part-completed state the cutting area of the machine still needs guarding along the traverse direction to protect any other employees from sticking their hands in, also behind the machine where the moving blade could be accessed.

The guarding might still leave small (smaller than hand) gaps at the sides and also leave wide gaps above and below the cutting area which arms can't get at.

But I'm wondering if projectiles from a disintegrating blade/teeth might make their way at speed through any remaining small gaps.

Anyone have experience of the trajectory of disintegrating saw blades, do bits fly off at a tangent from any point on the circumference, or only where it's cutting, and might metal bits bounce off the rigid material (being cut) and therefore fly out in any direction, particularly outwards or upwards or even downwards?

John W
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#2 Posted : 07 May 2008 15:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mitch
Why not just fit a sprung adjustable guard to enclose the whole of the blade above the work material? It would contain any debris and negate the requirement for further guarding. Having cut (at high and low speed) wood, aluminium, copper, plastic, stainless and mild steel with rotary blades the only blade failures I have witnessed have been through misuse by the operator, though I am sure it does happen if the blade has imperfections or is sharpened incorrectly.
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#3 Posted : 07 May 2008 16:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
The guards are there to prevent contact with dangerous parts but the case law has stated that it is not there to contain flying parts from the disntegration of part of the machine.

Concentrate on the contact and not the remaining small areas - providing contact with the dangerous parts are prevented.

Bob
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#4 Posted : 08 May 2008 09:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By CFT
John

Before responding, could you explain the 'home made' bit please.

CFT
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#5 Posted : 08 May 2008 09:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By John A Wright
Hi,

By 'home-made' I mean their engineering dept. construct cutting machines themselves for special cutting jobs. The saw blade/guard was purchased three years ago. They construct the traversing mechanism, and a clamping mechanism that holds the sheets to be cut, and the general structure around which they fit any other necessary guarding. Their skilled electricians construct the controls, switches, e.g. the blade will only rotate if the on button is held down, the other hand operates the traverse.

One reason it's not sufficient just to spring-guard the moving blade is that the items being cut are not flat, they are usually corrugated or upside-down saucer shape. The plastic sawdust doesn't just do downwards. The rigid plastic material (which they manufacture) is high quality but a malfunction during the cutting could produce sharp splinters of plastic, hence they like to guard around the process. The process is noisy (the sheets vibrate) and guarding also aims to reduce noise. The end-result can still be >90dB so ear defenders are worn by operator and area near machine.

The chances of blade disintegration would appear to be low, they are not cutting concrete. The blade is three years old but was rarely used in a previous saw machine.


John W
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#6 Posted : 08 May 2008 11:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mitch
John,

Sounds like you have a variety of issues on both safety and health. I will send you a link off site of a company I would recommend contacting.

Mitch
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#7 Posted : 08 May 2008 12:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By CFT
Thanks John; would you say this company is the only one in it's field? As I wonder what other similar companies do for specific machinery production?

I note they manufacture the plastic, do they have all necessary certifications in place for the machinery such as harmonised standards and declaration of conformity, as they appear to manufacture that as well?

CFT

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#8 Posted : 08 May 2008 14:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By John A Wright
Mitch,

Thanks for the link; I have visited their site before but not used their downloads, I'll have another look.

CFT,

The customer is certainly a leader in their field, their products are used extensively in the building industry.

They build cutting machines only for their own use, they don't supply. I examine all machines they make/use through PUWER and RA, and have stopped some bad practices (some of which were discussed on this forum last year). Their electrical and pneumatic work on these machines seems to be very professionally done, but are there particular harmonised standards and marking/certifications that should apply to their in-house made/used equipment?


John W

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