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#1 Posted : 12 May 2008 10:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By Fornhelper Hi all, Does anyone have any experience in dealing with community service 'clients' and the issues relating to the provision of PPE? We have offenders who may be asked to carry out tasks that require safety footwear however as the work is mainly short term we do not believe that it is reasonably practical to supply safety footwear to each individual. We do supply a 'pool' of footwear that is sanitised before it is issued however we have received a complaint from a client who insists that 'personal' protective equipment is just that and should be issued to each individual. I am confident that the approach we are taking is correct however I would welcome any comments others may have or indeed any information on arrangements other organisations may use in similar situations. Regards FH
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#2 Posted : 12 May 2008 11:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Merchant From the PPE at Work Regs para 4:- (4.4) Where it is necessary to ensure that personal protective equipment is hygienic and otherwise free of risk to health, every employer and every self-employed person shall ensure that personal protective equipment provided under this regulation is provided to a person for use only by him. If you can ensure against those risks without personal issue then you can share PPE, but if not, not. Boots should be easy as they can be sanitized - otherwise the ten pin bowling industry would implode.
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#3 Posted : 12 May 2008 11:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By Fornhelper Thanks Dave....good comparison...I can use that !!! Cheers FH
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#4 Posted : 12 May 2008 15:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By Holly McDermott Fornhelper, The bowling scenario can not be compared as the shoes there are not PPE
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#5 Posted : 12 May 2008 16:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Colin Reeves Holly The comparison is that the bowling scenario proves that shoe sanitation is feasible. There is no suggestion of them being PPE! Colin
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#6 Posted : 13 May 2008 09:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By John J We provide safety shoes and wellingtons for visitors to our plants. The wellies are sanitised between use with a simple spray. We have swabbed the wellies before and after cleaning to prove the spray is effective and it is. For the purpose of the visit or for short term work the footwear is personal issue. Once it is returned it is inspected for wear, cleaned and re-issued. Some of our areas will provide socks for short term use. John
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#7 Posted : 13 May 2008 14:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gareth W Jones Just a thought, could you not provide an overshoe type of footwear, I have been using these for over two years, they fit over the shoe and protect the toes? (I dont know if these would provide enough protection) We issue them out to visitors on the odd occasion. Gareth
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#8 Posted : 13 May 2008 16:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Fornhelper The type of work carried out is generally minor construction projects, slabbing paths gardening etc so really do need the full safety boot. Though, given it's offenders we are dealing with, maybe we should ask the courts to include in the sentencing a stipulation that offenders supply their own PPE for community service - with the costs deducted from any fine !!! :-) FH
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