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Posted By JLH70
Quick question (I think I already know the answer but thought it prudent to check)
If we (Principal Contractor)employ a Crane on a contract lift for various duties, including a man riding cage giving our operatives access/egress to their workplace (open shafts e.g. 12m wide by 15m deep), should the hire company provide details on Emergency Rescue from the cage or is this purely down to ourselves?
I believe it is ourselves but wondered if the Crane company should also cover this.
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Posted By Tony abc jprhdnMurphy
A simple written plan should be compiled by the AP and he must, under current regs, allow for emergency procedures. You too have a duty of care. The simple answer lies in a presentation by them to you showing how this is to be achieved and everybody signs up to it. Presentations and safety briefings are far more beneficial than generic method statements and only take 5 minutes. Its amazing how many issues are resolved this way.
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Posted By alex mccreadie
Agree with Tony providing the man riding duties form part of the Contract Lift.(Some Customers do add ons hoping for a freebie) Working together with the AP rather than saying it is your problem goes a long way. This is why the briefing with all parties involved taking part and signing up to the plan shows a true commitment to safety.
Alex
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
Little confused here as the use of contract lifts are not normally used other than for pre-specified lifting tasks. The use of a crane to do man riding as and when and where required by the contractor would not be a normal situation. Each position, use, etc would have to be pre-determined and individually listed in the contract. This enables the lifting company to set out all the safe methods etc for the work BEFORE arrival on site.
I think that you are not actually on a contract lift arrangement but actually a CPA hire arrangement in which case the employing contractor is responsible for all aspects of the work. Check this out carefully as it is critical in case of an incident.
Do not assume that as you have hired in the crane that it is a contract lift. Even if it is a contract lift you need to look at the contract and all the exclusions before you can make a solid decision.
The distinction between Contract and CPA lifts are extremely important.
Bob
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Posted By JLH70
Thanks for all your replies.
The Crane hire company provide AP, Lifting plan, Method statement & RA, Equipment, operator and slinger/banksman.
The task is "mucking out" a 12m dia. caisson shaft app 15m deep.
The crane lowers our operatives into the shaft using man riding basket. The operatives fill muck skips with spoil from the shaft base as the shaft is sunk and then they are lifted out of the shaft in man riding basket when required.
The crane will not need to be moved during these works.
I will look into the wording of the contract to ensure we are under full contract lift terms and not CPA.
Thanks
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Posted By Tony abc jprhdnMurphy
Remember to check the crane certs. If they are lifting men the certs need to be 6 monthly if memory serves. Check with AP
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