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Posted By Phil H
I was asked a direct question by a childcare provider recently which went
Q. If a child fractures his arm at school but doesn't go to hospital until the following day do I have to report it to HSE (RIDDOR)
Somewhat on my guard (as it sounded a loaded question)my answer was NO.
Having checked upon my facts (in case ACOP changed)I still think this is technically correct although I see some websites etc say all such injuries requiring hospital treatment should be reported. My point is the regulations and ACOP says ' taken to hospital from the site of the accident'eg ambulance,taxi etc. Is the regulation flawed and allows a get out or am I missing something
Phil
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Posted By Eddie
Phil,
If you have not already seen it, this guidance may help http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/edis1.pdf
I think the key phrase regarding RIDDOR and schools is to do with the "work undertaking"
Pupil trips over a damaged stair and breaks an arm - RIDDOR
Bumps into another pupil while playing in the playground and breaks an arm - not RIDDOR
Eddie
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Posted By ITK
The answer is NO, you are correct.
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Posted By Sally
This is one we have had discussion with HSE about and the key points are
Straight from scene to hospital eg not home first
related to work activity
They go to hospital, not local doctors etc
HSE do a guidance sheet on it which can be found on their website
Hope this helps
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Posted By Sally
Sorry Eddie - I've just seen you've already linked to guidance
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Posted By Phil H
Thanks Guys
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Posted By Karen L
Erm, if I am reading it right the visit to hospital is irrelevant. It would be reportable as it is a major injury - it was a broken arm wasn't it?
Were it not a major injury then yes, it would not be reportable.
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Posted By MT
Karen, major injuries are only applicable to employees, not members of the public.
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Posted By Bob Youel
majors are only reportable if RIDDOR applies
e.g. young child running about and collides with a similar young child also running about and breaks arm in 3 places and is immediately taken directly to hos
If the collision was not caused via a poor playground surface etc but purely by two children colliding then its not RIDDOR as its not work related but play related i.e. its an accident!
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Posted By Lorna
Can I add my view and say that I agree with ITK, Sally and MT. I work for an Education Authority and I would only have reported this if the child had been taken directly to hospital, which in this case you say they were not.
With school pupils it is not the severity of the injury that makes it reportable, as they are non-employees, but whether or not they were taken directly to hospital as the result of a work related activity. Naturally that does not mean that it is not reported internally and investigated, only that it is not reportable to the HSE.
Hope this helps
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