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Posted By David Smith
Can anyone help with a problem with some new scaffolding that has been erected outside of one of my buildings.
I work in central London and we have a large building that faces onto a very busy main road. There is a large pedestrian footfall in this area. Scaffolding has been erected on the building facade which extends at least 3 meters from the building across the pavement. The erectors have constructed the usual 'tunnel for pedestrians, but have not erected any hoarding around the 'pillars' of the structure.
Does anyone know if this is a legal requirement?
Regards
Dave Smith
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Posted By Ron Hunter
The legal requirement is limited to identifying reasonably practicable control measures to protect the risk group - in this case the general public, including children and those with disabilities (inc. mobility and sight impairment).
HSE publication "protecting the public - your next move" HSG151 outlines controls considered reasonably practicable.
Temporary lighting requirements should also be considered.
Local Authorities will usually have a permissioning regime for scaffold erected on public footpaths and may well set their own additional or higher standards.
Ultimately, the Client (who may be the occupant or owner of the building) could be held (at least partially) liable if an accident were to occur.
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Posted By Ali
Not only should there be warning signs and notices, but the standards on the pavement should be adequately padded and highlighted to warn the public. I would expect netting too.
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Posted By patrick carr
Hi Dave
You say the scaffolding erectors have added protection to the public from their scaffolding.
IMO i would not think it was the Scaffolders job to erect hoarding to the structure or coloumns of the building, only to the scaffolding they have erected.
As has been posted,temporary lighting, signage and Hi-Vis padding, yes as all of the mentioned are affixed to the scaffold structure. The building itself, i would say is not the scaffold companies responsibility.
best regards
Paddy
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Posted By Chris Duffy
Sometimes there are stipulations from the local council with regards to their requirements along with the obvious Statutory duties.
If you have a problem the Council may be able to help.
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Posted By Garry Adams
David
Shurley it is an irrelevance whether the encasement of Scaffold Tubes and Couplers are a legal requirement...a common duty of care would be suffice and a reasonably practicable control measure to mitigate against a tort to the person.
I agree with Paddy, as far as I am aware the installation of hoarding is not part of the Scaffold Erectors remit.
Garry...
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Posted By Chris Duffy
When I was Safety Advisor for a large company in London, we would agree with the Principal Contractor to erect the hoarding but that was only in London.
I have worked all over the UK and Chippies would normally carry this out.
PC would normally arrange this.
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Posted By patrick carr
hi all
Here here Chris
Paddy ....
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Posted By D H
Scaffs are scaffs - good guys and all - they erect as told to.
Rest of job re planning, padding, organising signage - protection of public etc is down to the management of the job - unless the job has been allocated - and agreed with the scaffold erectors.
Generally scaffs will state as the job is detailed to them what safety requirements are needed after erection, but the end result is down to the planners and organisers.
Dave
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Posted By Antony McManus
Hi,
Generally, the Wirral - Liverpool Protocol should be followed. Send me you e-mail address and I will forward it.
Tony Mc
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Posted By David Smith Thanks to everyone who responded, after much discussuion between the project manager and contractor, the hoarding went up over the weekend, I would like to hope that my argument about following best practice and not sticking to the councils minimum requirements had some sway in the matter. Regards David Smith d.smith@wmin.ac.uk
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