Posted By Bob Dobalina
Hi,

Anyone got any info on Lifting Plans. This happened the other day and im wondering if anyone can advise on what needs planning etc



Dont know if it was reported

Cheers

Bob

Posted By John Kane
WOW, is this in the UK?

Posted By Mike Newell
The thing is, although it is a failed lift.

Is it still reportable under RIDDOR as a dangerous occurance ???

Posted By Mike Newell
It's strange actually becasue these are the type of accident that people never hear about and never get reported

Posted By Phil
It is a faliure of lifting equipment, first one on the list, how can it not be reportable?

Reportable dangerous occurrences are:
Collapse, overturning or failure of load-bearing parts of lifts and lifting equipment;
Explosion, collapse or bursting of any closed vessel or associated pipework;
Failure of any freight container in any of its load-bearing parts;
Plant or equipment coming into contact with overhead power lines;
Electrical short circuit or overload causing fire or explosion;
Any unintentional explosion, misfire, failure of demolition to cause the intended collapse, projection of material beyond a site boundary, injury caused by an explosion;Accidental release of a biological agent likely to cause severe human illness;
Failure of industrial radiography or irradiation equipment to de-energise or return to its safe position after the intended exposure period;
Malfunction of breathing apparatus while in use or during testing immediately before use;

Failure or endangering of diving equipment, the trapping of a diver, an explosion near a diver, or an uncontrolled ascent;
Collapse or partial collapse of a scaffold over five metres high, or erected near water where there could be a risk of drowning after a fall;
Unintended collision of a train with any vehicle;
Dangerous occurrence at a well (other than a water well);
Dangerous occurrence at a pipeline;
Failure of any load-bearing fairground equipment, or derailment or unintended collision of cars or trains;
A road tanker carrying a dangerous substance overturns, suffers serious damage, catches fire or the substance is released;
A dangerous substance being conveyed by road is involved in a fire or released;
The following dangerous occurrences are reportable except in relation to offshore workplaces: unintended collapse of: any building or structure under construction, alteration or demolition where over five tonnes of material falls; a wall or floor in a place of work; any false-work;
Explosion or fire causing suspension of normal work for over 24 hours;
Sudden, uncontrolled release in a building of: 100 kg or more of flammable liquid; 10 kg of flammable liquid above its boiling point; 10 kg or more of flammable gas; or of 500 kg of these substances if the release is in the open air;
Accidental release of any substance which may damage health.

Posted By alex mccreadie
It is reportable as a dangerous occurrence as the part that failed was a lifting accessory (From the hook down to the load)

Why should it be reported I would suggest this was a contract lift.

There are good possibilities with the craneage involved there was going to be a Tandem Lift.(2 Cranes)

If this part failed through some wrong planning I.E. Type of Lifting Accessory used.

Then what failure could there be waiting to happen in the rest of the lifts.


Hence must be reported to allow the failure to be investigated.

I agree with a lot of other posters that a lot of incidents are not reported that should be.

Sadly if this goes on fatal accidents occur and who then is happy standing in front of a family member saying sorry!

Bob did this happen recently as I do not recognise the company on the van ,or is it an old film?


Sorry Marsbar you lost me on your post?

Posted By naveen duggal
yes,agree with the above views and interesting observations

Posted By John Kane
Its pointless trying to find if this incident was punished by the HSE

The HSE database for prohibition notices and improvement notices is way behind and not up to date...

Posted By Carlos the Jackel
I think its fair to say that this looks about 15 tonne of gantry going flying from a height of around 50 feet

methinks that its slightly reportable