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#1 Posted : 05 August 2008 16:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gilly Margrave
Just got an e-mail from HSE offering to sell me the NAPO animations on risk assessment for a tenner.
I suspect this is the same set that is free on the Euro site.
http://osha.europa.eu/en/campaigns/hw2008/napo

Gilly ;)
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#2 Posted : 05 August 2008 19:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Packham
Gilly

Having just reviewed the short clip on the HSE website and compared this with what one can download for free, I feel that, unless the HSE version contains material that is not on the one you can download, then you are correct.

Chris
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#3 Posted : 05 August 2008 21:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Barry Cooper
Gilly
Excuse my ignorance, but what is the difference between AV1 and WMV - on the downloads

Barry
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#4 Posted : 06 August 2008 10:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Darren (Daz) Fraser
WMV - Windows Media Viewer (standard on microsoft operating system)

AVI - Audio Video Interface (I think......)

Both are types of media players.

WMV can be locked, which potetially means you would not be able to play.

AVi cannot be locked in this way.

Hope that helps.
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#5 Posted : 06 August 2008 11:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By NJS
the one on offer from the HSE is 52 mins long, the link posted above gives access to a 10 minute clipp of the movie. i'll have a look about and see if i can find the 52min one some where else.
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#6 Posted : 06 August 2008 11:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian_P
Good spot Gilly,

Cheers
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#7 Posted : 07 August 2008 09:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alan Hoskins
Hi Gilly,

Where did you get your 52 minutes from?

A look at HSE Books website says it is approximately 9 minutes long.

Alan
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#8 Posted : 07 August 2008 09:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Packham
The one I downloaded from the EU site was aabout 10 minutes long, i.e. ties in with what HSE are saying.

Chris
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#9 Posted : 07 August 2008 10:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alan Hoskins
Sorry Gilly,

I meant NJS...

Alan
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#10 Posted : 07 August 2008 10:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Phil Errup
OK I've watched all 6 or 7 on the european site. Please tell me I'm not the only one here who would honestly feel like they was being treated like a child if they was expected to watch one in a safety presentation or training session.
( was and were... I never know which one to use :-) )

It's worse than Pingu. (But I will admit my lad used to laugh till he cried when Pingu ate yellow snow.)

I nearly asked if it was geared at children but the content suggests otherwise. Could this be one of the reasons safety gets a bad name?




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#11 Posted : 07 August 2008 10:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tabs
Pingu? I guess so. But what is wrong with Pingu? I never watched it, but everytime one of my mates mentions it, I know the rest of the group is going to be able to add more ... so it works as a communication.

I used to shun the Simpsons, but now I see the message.

I will use these (thanks Gilly) for my up an coming international risk assessment training I have to design. Perfect even without sound.

I like the representations used, it helps one to visualise the basics, even complacency.

I will be sure to introduce it correctly though, I think if you let people know you want them to look for the message rather than worry if it is grown-up, it doesn't matter.
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#12 Posted : 07 August 2008 10:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By NJS
Alan H, i got it from the HSE web site

http://www.hsebooks.com/...ry_name=&product_id=4839

NJS
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#13 Posted : 07 August 2008 10:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alan Hoskins
Aha! that one is an earlier compilation.

The current release is at:

http://www.hsebooks.com/...Fname=&product%5Fid=5010

Alan
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#14 Posted : 07 August 2008 10:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chas
Shame our friend NAPO is not wearing a seat belt in the clip entitled Risky Combination. Tut, Tut!
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#15 Posted : 07 August 2008 11:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Packham
Phil

Actually it should be "were", but you make a very good point.

I always feel that it is counter-productive to treat those undergoing training as simple minded. I often encounter the view (usually from middle management) that the workforce are simple-minded, as they only work in the factory. Then you find that they are working with sophisticated computer controlled machine tools that that manager would have difficulty understanding!

Having now watched the video several times I feel that it does not do much for me and I do not think it would do much for the people I am generally training either.

However, let us bear in mind that it was produced as a collaborative effort across the EU and that other countries may respond differently.

Chris
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#16 Posted : 07 August 2008 11:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By Phil Errup
Agree Chris totally.
I sometimes remind managers that some of the people stacking shelves do so because they are happy doing that. It gives them a break from managing the lives of several offspring, running a home and all whilst studying for a degree in biometric science.

A peruvian goatherder may raise their eyebrows in surprise at napo, personally, I dont like it, nor do the people I showed it to today.

Right, more coffee methinks.
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#17 Posted : 07 August 2008 11:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tabs
How ironic Chris ... my training is for middle management :-)
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#18 Posted : 08 August 2008 11:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stevie Smith
Hi.

There are other titles available here.

http://osha.europa.eu/en/sub/napo/napos-films

Mind you, I can't remember how I got to this link....
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#19 Posted : 08 August 2008 14:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gilly Margrave
NAPO Childish?
No THIS is childish!

http://www.eyegas.com/re...cts/cubiclefreakout.html

Happy Friday

Gilly ;)
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